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UPSer said:
What's up with ABX pilots making fun of Astar pilots lack of CAT II capability on Indy center freq last friday? Your CP Vollmer is not proud of you at all.

Overnight express delivery business and no CAT II or III capability..... Kinda makes me chuckle.
 
Sporto said:
Overnight express delivery business and no CAT II or III capability..... Kinda makes me chuckle.

DHL obviously does not care about this, or fully understand the potential implication. Which is even more frightening.

Abx has 28 aircraft parked idle and Astar has none. Abx will be parking 3 more 9's by the end of June and an 8. OK, Abx will add 4 boeings by years end. The math still looks bad.

We are overstaffed, and with rumors of the 8 going away completely and retirement going to 65. It will get even more stagnent and uglier than ever. Can you say deep furlough, for a long time.

I am not chuckling!
 
Bitter said:
DHL obviously does not care about this, or fully understand the potential implication. Which is even more frightening.

Abx has 28 aircraft parked idle and Astar has none. Abx will be parking 3 more 9's by the end of June and an 8. OK, Abx will add 4 boeings by years end. The math still looks bad.

We are overstaffed, and with rumors of the 8 going away completely and retirement going to 65. It will get even more stagnent and uglier than ever. Can you say deep furlough, for a long time.

I am not chuckling!

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and bet you are a "glass half empty guy". Am I right?
 
Bitter said:
DHL obviously does not care about this, or fully understand the potential implication. Which is even more frightening.

Abx has 28 aircraft parked idle and Astar has none. Abx will be parking 3 more 9's by the end of June and an 8. OK, Abx will add 4 boeings by years end. The math still looks bad.

We are overstaffed, and with rumors of the 8 going away completely and retirement going to 65. It will get even more stagnent and uglier than ever. Can you say deep furlough, for a long time.

I am not chuckling!

I respect that you are at least honest with your current situation. That does not say much for the rest of your union brothers. Once eveyone figures out that we are all in this mess together and protect our flying from getting pushed out the door to other low cost acmi carriers, we will be better off.
By the way for some of you others, sorry to disapoint you but I am not Rhoid.
 
According to Vollmer, since your new uniform vendor is up and operating with the proper color of grey, he expects each and every one of you to wear the full and correct uniform. That includes the hat. Most of you guys could stand to take a lesson in professional appearance from one of the handful of you guys that acutally dresses properly, Capt. H. Moran. Now he looks like an "airline pilot" not a freight dog.
 
Still keep hearing rumors of CAT, ExpressNet and Kalitta looking for work in ILN.
 
UPSer said:
Still keep hearing rumors of CAT, ExpressNet and Kalitta looking for work in ILN.

How'd you get 200+ posts out of that username without getting banned?

Really, you've become quite boring
 
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What up?

Is the one you refer to as "Rhoid" an Ex Airborne Expresser that now fly's for UPS? I'm getting that vibe.
 
Sporto said:
Is the one you refer to as "Rhoid" an Ex Airborne Expresser that now fly's for UPS? I'm getting that vibe.

Yeah, except he doesn't fly for UPS, either. I don't think he pilots anything
 
You're right, I make up and read on the internet everything that I know about the two companies and the airlines in general. I can fly for whomever I want online!
 
I will say the dude seems to know a lot of what's going on at both companies.

I just get my info on R1 nights and that's only when a few key informants are there. One that comes to mind begins with B, ends with A and hubba in the middle.
 
penguin22 said:
That from "UPSer". You're a riot, smartboy




Lets just see who does the most hiring in the next 5 years, shall we?

So you are the messiah now sitting upon the hill and calling all the shots for five year plans. Did DHL send you a crystal ball or is this just another mission impossible?
You haven't worked for DHL long enough to figure out that there is no five year plan. Granted we are all just providing to the customer, but we all also know who is really calling the shots.
One thing I do know about a five year plan is survival. DHL is not interested in anything else right now except survival in North America.
 
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UPSer said:
Still keep hearing rumors of CAT, ExpressNet and Kalitta looking for work in ILN.

THAT"S it...Hem-a-Rhoid... I'm now kicking all Brownstains off the jumpseat just to hopefully catch you.
 
Joe Pilot said:
So you are the messiah now sitting upon the hill and calling all the shots for five year plans. Did DHL send you a crystal ball or is this just another mission impossible?
You haven't worked for DHL long enough to figure out that there is no five year plan. Granted we are all just providing to the customer, but we all also know who is really calling the shots.
One thing I do know about a five year plan is survival. DHL is not interested in anything else right now except survival in North America.

Go back to school for some remedial reading. Nowhere did I claim having any "five year plan". I merely said lets see who does more hiring over the next 5 years.
Let me spell it out for you, since we're talking about furloughees. I'd rather be on the bottom of our seniority list than yours.

Now I could see someone with your reading skills might conclude from that statement that I'm at the bottom of our seniority list. Just to be clear, I'm not.
 
Sporto said:
I just get my info on R1 nights and that's only when a few key informants are there. One that comes to mind begins with B, ends with A and hubba in the middle.

LOL... well there goes your credibility!!
 
UPSer said:
According to Vollmer, since your new uniform vendor is up and operating with the proper color of grey, he expects each and every one of you to wear the full and correct uniform. That includes the hat. Most of you guys could stand to take a lesson in professional appearance from one of the handful of you guys that acutally dresses properly, Capt. H. Moran. Now he looks like an "airline pilot" not a freight dog.

Yep, gotta wear a hat to fly an airplane. Lets the rampers know that you are either a pilot or a skycap...

hehehehe.
 
freightdogfred said:
THAT"S it...Hem-a-Rhoid... I'm now kicking all Brownstains off the jumpseat just to hopefully catch you.


Good, I value my life to much to ride on a jumpseat of the above mentioned carriers.
 
UPSer said:
Good, I value my life to much to ride on a jumpseat of the above mentioned carriers.

Lucky for you, Rhoid, he doesn't work for any of those "above mentioned carriers".
 

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