How do the ASA pilots feel about management?

[Bizjet]

They also authorized a strike vote.

For those folks that don't want to rock the boat, wake up!!! We haven't had a COLA raise in over 3 years! ASA isn't worth staying at if the working conditions worsen. Our CP's are worthless, our new system CP is a weasel that nobody but the base CP's really like, Willie and Georgia in crew planning have managed to f-up the bid packages every month since they took over, the company wants us to fly fatigued, and expects us to "wash our underwear in the hotel sink" if our overnight bags are lost because we can't put them in the overhead bins.

This crap needs to stop and we can put a stop to it with unity!

One of the ATL pilots told us in the SLC crew lounge that it was Assistant Chief Pilot Kim Reed who told the pilot to wash his underwear in the hotel sink. Sounds like someone with prior experience. Maybe her size 14 underwear has to be washed in the bathtub. He also said that she calls Scott Hall (Nelson reincarnated) if one of the union reps is holding court in the crew lounge. If you see her in ATL ask her for some travel size Tide and maybe her favorite cookie recipe. BAD GOES AROUND!

 

[On Your Six]

I bet Jerry, Ronny Reber, Brad Holt, and all of those guys in St George are browning their pants right now! Buying ASA is their own personal "Vietnam." Oh well, too bad they weren't "insulated" from labor strife, right Ron Reber? What a joke. Good luck ASA guys and gals!

Bye Bye--General Lee

So true. Skywest bought ASA in order to ensure growth but it got a nice present with it - the potential for labor strife. Maybe the ASA people will show their Skywest brothers and sisters what it's like to actually have CAJONES and stick up for yourself and your profession...

 

[av8er2]

One of the ATL pilots told us in the SLC crew lounge that it was Assistant Chief Pilot Kim Reed who told the pilot to wash his underwear in the hotel sink. Sounds like someone with prior experience. Maybe her size 14 underwear has to be washed in the bathtub. He also said that she calls Scott Hall (Nelson reincarnated) if one of the union reps is holding court in the crew lounge. If you see her in ATL ask her for some travel size Tide and maybe her favorite cookie recipe. BAD GOES AROUND!

Good one! This bag issue was a good example of how we are treated. This rule was made and enforced without thinking of the pilots and FA's at all. This is typical on everything, "who cares about the crews". You can only f-k with the pilots for so long.

It is amazing how money is really not the issue. When the way you are treated at work and the quality of ASA stinks, this really bothers a professional and at some point flying an airplane is not worth it and the professional moves on.

 

[blueridge71]

According to the ALPA Update, the bag issue is being resolved.

As to the comment, it's hard for me to believe that a CP would make such a stupid comment at such a time. It would be throwing gas on a fire.

Maybe that is the ASA way, but maybe it's a rumor that somebody started.

 

[Gnarloooo]

This is one big game of chicken. We will mimic the tractor scene in "Footloose", except both our shoes are purposely tied to the pedals.[/quote]

I'm looking for a hero!

 

[IFLYASA]

At the start of my 6th year at ASA, I was purchasing my 5th luggage. All those times my bag rode in the back of the Brasilia and the RJ took it's toll. Well I finally purchased the luggage works bag. I swore I would never let it ride in the back again. Well, the first time it "had" to ride in the back, it comes back with a completely bent handle. It was only 1 month old. Talking about PO'd. After that, my bag only rides in the cabin. Screw what they say, unless they want to give us a luggage allowance.

 

[reno]

Also a vote to transfer our Strategic preparedness committee into the Strike Preparedness committee and passed a resolution for strike ballot authorization.

It does not say that in the press release. Is there another press release that verifies that?

 

["GO AROUND"]

It does not say that in the press release. Is there another press release that verifies that?

Don't know if it was in any press release, but the 2 resolutions passed in the same meeting. Was put out to all ASA pilots.

 

[blueridge71]

Go Around is correct.

 

[ASADriver]

My vote is NO! I've been talking to many pilots who also intend to vote NO! I have been hearing many senior pilots in the crew lounge bring up some very good points about why this isn't the time and that this isn't the same as 1998. They have some very valid points. Some of them have done ALPA work.

I also had a member of the strike committee tell me that it was OK to vote for the strike because we would actually get to vote on it again. That isn't my understanding of it. This is THE VOTE. The "chest thumpers" also like to say that this doesn't mean we will actually strike, that is just a bluf. Well first of all, you don't say you are "bluffing". Second, a strike vote shouldn't be a "bluff". It should only be used if you are really ready to walk away forever. Some of us aren't. At this time, my vote is NO!

 

[COOPERVANE]

I vote yes!!!

I do agree if you vote yes for a strike vote, you'd better be prepared for the consequences.

Having said that, I firmly believe that the ONLY way to KEEP what we already have is to stand up and say ENOUGH!!! Obviously, the company would go back to a mid 80's contract if they could!!

I KNOW THE INDUSTRY IS IN THE TOILET, BUT COME ON!!!

Several months ago,wholesale gas prices went up in the very competetive world of auto gas dealers, who operate on razor thin margins. What did the station manager/owner do? Tell his employees his costs have risen and the competition is fierce, so I will cut your pay? NO! he raised his prices (as they ALL did!) Perhaps an oversimplification but the principle is the same. Don't punish the employees for your lack of planning and "vision"

I for one would be happy with the current Skywest deal (except 70 seat pay) No JRM. commuter clause, etc.. All QOL issues that should be MINIMUM for this level of profession.

Vote yes and send a message:uzi: uke: to management

 

[reno]

just to clarify, SkyWest does not have a commuter clause, we do get JRM'd and we fly 70 seaters for 50 seat pay. Don't accept what we have, we rejected what we have plus 1.2%. We can do better!

 

[~~~^~~~]

This isn't news. Our employee survey last year reported that 92% of the Flight Operations employees did not trust senior management. That is a heck of a "no confidence" vote.

That having been stated, things have improved since Skywest rolled some Vice Presidents out of the building.

Does anyone know if we can really strike before any contract solution has been presented to us for ratification? If I was Skywest I would toss something across the table - crazy to let your employees walk without even making a good faith effort.

 

[reno]

SkyWest has never had to deal with a union or a unified pilot group. ASA's "No confidence vote/auth strike ballot" may just wake them up, a little.

 

[Plug]

My vote is NO! I've been talking to many pilots who also intend to vote NO! I have been hearing many senior pilots in the crew lounge bring up some very good points about why this isn't the time and that this isn't the same as 1998. They have some very valid points. Some of them have done ALPA work.

I also had a member of the strike committee tell me that it was OK to vote for the strike because we would actually get to vote on it again. That isn't my understanding of it. This is THE VOTE. The "chest thumpers" also like to say that this doesn't mean we will actually strike, that is just a bluf. Well first of all, you don't say you are "bluffing". Second, a strike vote shouldn't be a "bluff". It should only be used if you are really ready to walk away forever. Some of us aren't. At this time, my vote is NO!

That may be the talk amongst your small group of friends but I think the Wilson polling data is a little more accurate. The MEC has been very strategic in these negotiations and witheld the strike vote until the numbers were sky high. Also, could those senior pilots also be those who were "grandfathered" in and don't pay dues? Spare me their so called ALPA resume! Quite contrary to what you say, the senior folks I speak to are some of the most militant. Another interesting point is that only about 400 or so pilots out of 1800 were here for contract 98'. A very strong majority of this pilot group recognizes the fact that we the pilots don't always need to pay for management's shortcomings. Don't let SJS blind you!

On another note:

As far as washing your underwear in the sink, this a true statement made by KR and was backed up by our new "Nelson". Absolutely absurd!