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General Lee

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ALPA's Delta Connection ASA Pilots Express No Confidence in Management
Monday November 21, 4:49 pm ET
ATLANTA, Nov. 21 /PRNewswire/ -- The Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l. (ALPA) voted unanimously in a special meeting last week to express no confidence in senior ASA management leadership. "Following more than three years of collective bargaining talks, with little to show for our effort, management has continued to stall this process to avoid reaching an agreement with our pilots," said Master Chairman, Capt. Bob Arnold. "When you combine this tactic with the multitude of management contract violations, the sometimes-hostile work environment management has created, and the company's continued poor showing in U.S. Department of Transportation performance rankings, you can begin to understand why we took this action."
Capt. Arnold added, "Most recently, management disrupted our negotiations by announcing that it had not conducted an adequate cost analysis of the sections we have already agreed to in these contract talks. In light of the new Delta Air Lines-ASA Code Share Agreement, the company may have to review previously agreed-upon terms. Given the time and effort invested in these negotiations, this behavior is unconscionable."
The ASA pilots have been in contract negotiations with management since September 2002, when their most current contract became amendable under the terms of the Railway Labor Act. Negotiations have been conducted with the assistance of the National Mediation Board since May 2004. During this period, the two parties have tentatively agreed to slightly more than a third of the terms for the contract. To date, the pilots have submitted proposals for all of the sections of the existing agreement but the two parties have yet to discuss the traditionally-controversial sections addressing wages, benefits, and other primarily financially-related matters.
ALPA represents 63,000 airline pilots at 40 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Its website is http://www.alpa.org.


Now SkyWest has to deal with ALPA. Good luck. This is gonna get crazy. Does Ron Reber feel "insulated?" Maybe the $400 million in issued stock today can go towards paying off the ASA pilots?


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Now SkyWest has to deal with ALPA. Good luck. This is gonna get crazy.


Bye Bye--General Lee[/quote]

About d@mn time! We should have done this about 2 years ago!
 
ASA Mgt doesn't care

When you break it down, it's Dollars and no sense. If ASA makes a profit, it makes no sense dealing with the labor issues. Until a strike or threat of a strike is posed, management will not deal with it. Threaten their paychecks and jobs and you have their attention. But only if the threats or promises can and will be carried out if need be. If they call your bluff, you'd better not blink. I'm sure Grinchstien will drop the guarenteed pay for ASA if a strke happens and Jerry Atkin will fire some Top level ASA Mis-Managers.
 
Also a vote to transfer our Strategic preparedness committee into the Strike Preparedness committee and passed a resolution for strike ballot authorization.
 
reno said:
Okay,

A no confidence vote. Now what?

They also authorized a strike vote.

It is time to let the no talent hacks in management know that we should be treated like professionals not a bunch of SJS kool-aid drinkers.

Our "new management", which are nothing but a bunch of pilot pushing greedy pions, have got to learn that were aren't going to sink to the likes of the Mesa contract. In fact, the only thing that ASA ALPA and Ford & Harrison err ASA management can agree on is the fact that our contract needs to be changed, we just disagree on which way it should go.

For those folks that don't want to rock the boat, wake up!!! We haven't had a COLA raise in over 3 years! ASA isn't worth staying at if the working conditions worsen. Our CP's are worthless, our new system CP is a weasel that nobody but the base CP's really like, Willie and Georgia in crew planning have managed to f-up the bid packages every month since they took over, the company wants us to fly fatigued, and expects us to "wash our underwear in the hotel sink" if our overnight bags are lost because we can't put them in the overhead bins.

This crap needs to stop and we can put a stop to it with unity!
 
Now that SkyWest Inc. owns ASA they want to whipsaw us against eachother. SkyWest pilots rejected the latest TA proposed by management. Unity between SkyWest pilots and ASA pilots will go a very long way!
 
I agree with all the comments. A threat of a strike is the only way to get their attention. There is no way Skywest will let us strike, looking back at the Comair strike. Surely they have run a cost analysis on how many days a strike would equate to the difference in a new 4 year contract. We also speak for the F/A's as well. I know we have it bad, but look how they get treated. This is one big game of chicken. We will mimic the tractor scene in "Footloose", except both our shoes are purposely tied to the pedals.
 
As bad as things get on the nwa farm, I guess it can be worse...
Good luck, ASA pilots. You deserve better.
Trust and support your mec and STRIKE preparedness committee!
 

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