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Flying Freddie
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Hey Nutsack,
"but your P/E is still one of the highest in the industry. 54! Give me a break. your stock sucks."
Where do you get your numbers ?? Today's numbers showed JB's P/E the same as SWA's, both at 39. I guess your right (obviously not the 54 P/E part), JB must be tanking it to have a P/E that matches SWA's. They might as well fold now, how could anybody want to be compared to the limited financial success of SWA ?
You really need to spend less time trying to coax that angry squirrel back inside to meet your gerbil.
Hey Nutsack,
"but your P/E is still one of the highest in the industry. 54! Give me a break. your stock sucks."
Where do you get your numbers ?? Today's numbers showed JB's P/E the same as SWA's, both at 39. I guess your right (obviously not the 54 P/E part), JB must be tanking it to have a P/E that matches SWA's. They might as well fold now, how could anybody want to be compared to the limited financial success of SWA ?
You really need to spend less time trying to coax that angry squirrel back inside to meet your gerbil.
holdon
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Freddie Spencer said:
Ah,
I've got it.....the answer lies in your last remark. When you were a young whipper snapper your mommy made you clean your room. Hence, the phobia of cleaning.
I retract my last remark "you can reapply in 6 months". I'm afraid, if you were lucky enough to have such a fine job, the helping straighten the cabin thing would throw you back into a full blown relapse. Years of therapy down the drain.
satpak77
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P/E ratios
dont mean jack sh1t on whether a stock will go up or go down. What DOES make a stock go up or down is buying or selling of the stock by investors. "Investor confidence" comes into play regarding company XYZ and their stock.
here is a performance chart with all the non-bankrupt airlines displayed. If you choose "90 days" (right click on the scroll bar) you will see that JBLU is indeed recently the worst performer, with America West closely following.
http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/perf.html?JBLU,CAL,DAL,AMR,NWAC,LUV,AWA,FRNT
P/E ratios are a invention of academia and economists. Had someone used "high P/E" as a reason to not buy a stock, they would have missed TASR ($1 to $100 in one year), RIMM ($7 to $80 in one year), AMR ($3 to $17 in 6 months), to include CSCO in the 1990s, in which $10,000 investment would have peaked at 202 million dollars (no joke, I am serious) in the 90s
if someone wants to focus on P/E ratios and nothing else, fine, be my guest
later
dont mean jack sh1t on whether a stock will go up or go down. What DOES make a stock go up or down is buying or selling of the stock by investors. "Investor confidence" comes into play regarding company XYZ and their stock.
here is a performance chart with all the non-bankrupt airlines displayed. If you choose "90 days" (right click on the scroll bar) you will see that JBLU is indeed recently the worst performer, with America West closely following.
http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/perf.html?JBLU,CAL,DAL,AMR,NWAC,LUV,AWA,FRNT
P/E ratios are a invention of academia and economists. Had someone used "high P/E" as a reason to not buy a stock, they would have missed TASR ($1 to $100 in one year), RIMM ($7 to $80 in one year), AMR ($3 to $17 in 6 months), to include CSCO in the 1990s, in which $10,000 investment would have peaked at 202 million dollars (no joke, I am serious) in the 90s
if someone wants to focus on P/E ratios and nothing else, fine, be my guest
later
freightdogfred
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Back to the original question,
I just got hired at JB for a Feb05 class. I put in my app about 1.5 years ago and kept updating it once every few months early on, then about once a month this summer as things got uncomfortable at my current carrier. I received a call for the phone interview back in Sept. Interviewed in Oct, in Phase 2 for about 7 weeks, and just called last week for the offer.
For the record, I am a white male from regional ranks. And from a look around the room at the other applicants the day of the interview at NYC, the post above about minorities only is completely unfounded. It seemed to me JB didnt seem overly concerned about the ethnicity of their crews, only their qualifications and personalities.
As far as JB surviving the next 2 years, all signs point to them being one of the carriers best positioned for growth. They'll have 200+ airplanes by late 2008 with options for another 200. They may lose some $ this quarter but nothing like most of the others out there. JB pays for airplanes, all are still under warranty. The key to keeping expenses low for them is continued growth bc a new airplane brings the average cost down by averaging an older airplanes cost with the new one's. Everyone Ive talked to about the E170 has loved the airplane, so I would imagine the E190 would not be considered junk.
No one should buy stock based on its share price. Yes, JB stock has lost a substantial part of its value over the last year, but I believe its investors general wariness of airline stocks in the current environment.
Someone made the comment about JV vs World Champs. Ive always thought of SWA as Walmart (biggest, largest LCC) and JB as Target (more upscale, good value, not quite as in your face). I mean these comparisons in a good way, nothing to slam any airline.
Hope this helps the thread starter.
I just got hired at JB for a Feb05 class. I put in my app about 1.5 years ago and kept updating it once every few months early on, then about once a month this summer as things got uncomfortable at my current carrier. I received a call for the phone interview back in Sept. Interviewed in Oct, in Phase 2 for about 7 weeks, and just called last week for the offer.
For the record, I am a white male from regional ranks. And from a look around the room at the other applicants the day of the interview at NYC, the post above about minorities only is completely unfounded. It seemed to me JB didnt seem overly concerned about the ethnicity of their crews, only their qualifications and personalities.
As far as JB surviving the next 2 years, all signs point to them being one of the carriers best positioned for growth. They'll have 200+ airplanes by late 2008 with options for another 200. They may lose some $ this quarter but nothing like most of the others out there. JB pays for airplanes, all are still under warranty. The key to keeping expenses low for them is continued growth bc a new airplane brings the average cost down by averaging an older airplanes cost with the new one's. Everyone Ive talked to about the E170 has loved the airplane, so I would imagine the E190 would not be considered junk.
No one should buy stock based on its share price. Yes, JB stock has lost a substantial part of its value over the last year, but I believe its investors general wariness of airline stocks in the current environment.
Someone made the comment about JV vs World Champs. Ive always thought of SWA as Walmart (biggest, largest LCC) and JB as Target (more upscale, good value, not quite as in your face). I mean these comparisons in a good way, nothing to slam any airline.
Hope this helps the thread starter.
jetblue320
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For The Record
In keeping with the title of this post, there are 41 female pilots currently on the line at JB, and if you do the math, that is under 4% figuring 952 pilots.
Off the record, only because I don't know for certain, I believe we have maybe 8-10 black pilots.
Like the previous poster stated, we hire on the basis of qualifications and personality, mostly in that order because of our methodology.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Very New Year.
In keeping with the title of this post, there are 41 female pilots currently on the line at JB, and if you do the math, that is under 4% figuring 952 pilots.
Off the record, only because I don't know for certain, I believe we have maybe 8-10 black pilots.
Like the previous poster stated, we hire on the basis of qualifications and personality, mostly in that order because of our methodology.
Have a Merry Christmas and a Very New Year.
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Thanks! This thread has me ROFL! I love seeing the rhetoric thats starts flying anytime anyone has anything negative to say about any of the, for lack of a better term "koolaid" gulping carriers. Nothing negative implied here, I just don't have a definition for these type companies, where hiring is mostly specific on the candidates adaptation to the "corporate culture" and integration with that workforce.
As to the other "minority" thing. You guys just really have to grow up.
Happy Holidays!
As to the other "minority" thing. You guys just really have to grow up.
Happy Holidays!
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jetblue320,
What I referencing is that all the rhetoric about minorities was not specific to how JB wants to handle it. (Actually 4-6% women is higher than the averages I have seen which is more like 1-2%) It was in reference to the ludicrous behavior of people who have nothing better to do than beat that old drum - a little tiring and juvenile. The quota system has not been in place in aviation for a long time. People just need to get over it. It's just an easy scapegoat issue for people to use for their inability to score a job at the company of their choice. The people that usually spout that garbage are the ones that have not had to experience what it is like to sit on the other side of the fence. It has nothing to do with who the minorities are, only what they were born as - not something anyone has a lot of control over.
As to where someone wants to work and what their expectations are - that's something different. People have a choice to seek employment at any company that they think will work for them or they can work with. It's an opinion - and people get to have them; even if they are contrary to what others might think. I find the opinions of both the 'drinkers and non-drinkers' to be entertaining & inspirational! JetBlue works for you and I am glad that it does. That is not to say that it will be an acquired taste for all.
Take Care & Good Luck To All!
What I referencing is that all the rhetoric about minorities was not specific to how JB wants to handle it. (Actually 4-6% women is higher than the averages I have seen which is more like 1-2%) It was in reference to the ludicrous behavior of people who have nothing better to do than beat that old drum - a little tiring and juvenile. The quota system has not been in place in aviation for a long time. People just need to get over it. It's just an easy scapegoat issue for people to use for their inability to score a job at the company of their choice. The people that usually spout that garbage are the ones that have not had to experience what it is like to sit on the other side of the fence. It has nothing to do with who the minorities are, only what they were born as - not something anyone has a lot of control over.
As to where someone wants to work and what their expectations are - that's something different. People have a choice to seek employment at any company that they think will work for them or they can work with. It's an opinion - and people get to have them; even if they are contrary to what others might think. I find the opinions of both the 'drinkers and non-drinkers' to be entertaining & inspirational! JetBlue works for you and I am glad that it does. That is not to say that it will be an acquired taste for all.
Take Care & Good Luck To All!
quotas
get over it huh? you tell that to my son when he doesn't get the job. why should my daughter have an advantage over my son? it's discrimination and it's unconstitutional. I don't think it's the type of thing we're supposed to "get over."
it's like saying to someone in south africa 30 years ago...apartheid...just get over it...it's exactly the same thing...it's discrimination of a "positive" kind...but it's still discrimination...and it's wrong.
with finite numbers...it does matter because someone doesn't get the job...someone else does...when you play race and gender into the equation...it changes who gets hired. some of you choose to "get over it." fine...I respect your opinion...just realize what you are doing...you're allowing the PC winds of change to dictate a policy that is fundamentally unfair to someone else.
get over it huh? you tell that to my son when he doesn't get the job. why should my daughter have an advantage over my son? it's discrimination and it's unconstitutional. I don't think it's the type of thing we're supposed to "get over."
it's like saying to someone in south africa 30 years ago...apartheid...just get over it...it's exactly the same thing...it's discrimination of a "positive" kind...but it's still discrimination...and it's wrong.
with finite numbers...it does matter because someone doesn't get the job...someone else does...when you play race and gender into the equation...it changes who gets hired. some of you choose to "get over it." fine...I respect your opinion...just realize what you are doing...you're allowing the PC winds of change to dictate a policy that is fundamentally unfair to someone else.
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