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How can I end up as a passenger on a Republic 100 seat "regional" jet?

Beetle007

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Since I can't book tickets directly on Republic, I am curious how I could end up on Republic's new 100 seat regional jet that they will be flying as a Midwest codeshare.

1. If I go to the Delta website, could I end up as a passenger on a 100 seat regional jet?

2. If I go to the Continental website, could I end up as a passenger on a 100 seat regional jet via a Delta codeshare?

3. If I go to the Alaska Airlines website, could I end up as a passenger on a 100 seat regional jet via a Delta codeshare?
 
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Beetle007

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Booking a flight on Midwest was obvious. I originally put that as one of the options but I didn't want to insult the intelligent people on this board. I wanted to point out (and ask) which other ways a person could end up on a Republic 100 seat RJ.

I was trying to point out that this Midwest issue could possible affect the scope of all airlines that have a codeshare. Mix in the fact that Delta owns almost 49% of Midwest and this is very messy. This issue sets a huge legal precedence for outsourced flying!

What prevents Delta or Continental from operating unlimited 100 seat RJs via the Midwest/Republic codeshare? This is almost like money laundering except it is scope laundering. If there is something to prevent this then please tell me as I am asking an honest question.

MONEY LAUNDERING - Conduct/acts designed in whole or in part to conceal or disguise the nature, location, source, ownership or control of money (can be currency or equivalents, eg. checks, electronic transfers, etc.) to avoid a transaction reporting requirement under state or federal law or to disguise the fact that the money was acquired by illegal means.
 

CitationLover

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I absolutely agree. This needs be stopped ASAP.

Don't try telling Moak that. We tried, he blew us off numerous times. It's his mess now.
 

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Did you guys not get the memo? RAH is now the defacto domestic carrier for DAL! All the 9's and 80's are going to the desert and they will buy 100's of these 190s to fly around as a "code share". 1000's of DAL pilots will be out and RAH will hire 1000's young ready to go cheap labor to fly a cool new big plane. I don't care if they only pay $23 an hour I'm happy to be flying!

We are F'd if this goes through! WOOOHOOO:puke:
 

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Part of me is honestly trying to understand if this only affects Delta or if it also affects a Delta codeshare partner. I am not trying to be a smart ass. I just want to know what type of ripple this could send throughout the industry.

For example, can Delta codeshare partners (such as Alaska or Continental) currently sell a ticket on a Delta regional (such as Pinnacle, Compass, Comair, Mesaba)?

If so, then is there somethimg to stop a Delta codeshare partner from selling a ticket on a Midwest codeshare 100 seat RJ operated by Republic?
 

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the 100 seat regional barrier has been broke, thanks to Delta's weak sisters.
Oh, you can buy your 100 seat republic ticket on Delta.
 

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As of right now the Delta code is NOT on Midwest or Midwest Connect flights. You CANNOT book a ticket through Delta and end up on a Midwest flight. The Midwest code is on the Delta flights so you can book a flight from Midwest and end up on a Delta or DCI flight. Not sure of all the intricacies of this codeshare, but right now no Delta passengers are going to end up on the Republic 190's.
 

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As of right now the Delta code is NOT on Midwest or Midwest Connect flights.

That is good but it looks like NWA code is still allowed on Midwest.
I just went to the NWA website and tried to book a ticket from MKE to LAS. First Option was a B717 operated by Midwest.

Since Delta/NWA is already a joint pilot contract at what point will NWA stop being allowed to sell tickets on Midwest?
 

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You can't blam that one on the RAH pilot group. If they(managment) is finding a loophole in mainline scope that is error that mainline unions and pilot groups made. Not the RAH pilots. I don't want to have to fly the thing but I really don't have a chose now.
 

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I didn't want to insult the intelligent people on this board


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......intelligent people on this board....HAHAHAHAHA that is some funny sh!t right there! OMG...HAHAHAHA
 

Paul R. Smith

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One word...metastasize
 

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NWA Sells DCA-MKE On Midwest...

I'm a Gold Elite customer on NWA and I have redeemed miles through NWA's web site where I ended up flying on Midwest's 717s, RAH's Midwest-badged E175s and Skywest's CRJs (connecting GRB) in 2009.

I haven't checked another board I visit occasionally (www.flyertalk.com) to see what the latest news is about NW/DL integrating their back-end IT/ticketing/FF systems. Last time I visited, speculation was by the beginning of Q3 2009. I suspect that once they do, you will start seeing DL selling award seats on Midwest.

As a Wisconsin native, I am very disappointed to see what's happened to MidEx. Thanks Timmeh!
 

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Management hires teams of people who are paid to think out creative ways to save money. If DAL continues to codeshare with Midwest, and Midwest chooses to contract out 100+ seat flying, then I would say the penny pinchers at DAL did their jobs. The one downside to CBA's is that they are stagnant and predictable for defined time periods. You agree to a contract, and the company then has years to find loopholes. RAH management may be trying to exploit this particular scope loophole. The ONLY options are to either get an LOA passed protecting scope via codeshare partners' outsourced flying (which will likely cost DAL pilots.... what are YOU willing to pay), or to wait for your next shot at section 6. It is frustrating to be let down by the very contract you and your coworkers fought so hard for. Our contract has failed us, too. But the truth is, YOU aren't going to take any illegal job action to prevent this round about loss of scope, and neither are RAH pilots. If Midwest's pilots strike, then we won't fly the struck work. our contract gives us that much. But, your scope does not seem to restrict the size of a codesharing airline's regional aircraft, and our scope of course allows for expansion.

The legal objection RAH pilots had to doing the Midwest flying disappeared when Midwest decided to not go ahead with their plans (if it ever was really the plan) to dry lease the RAH 170's. Our scope did not allow for a dry lease in this case. Now there will be no dry lease.
 

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I didn't want to insult the intelligent people on this board


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......intelligent people on this board....HAHAHAHAHA that is some funny sh!t right there! OMG...HAHAHAHA

You can't blam that one on the RAH pilot group. If they(managment) is finding a loophole in mainline scope that is error that mainline unions and pilot groups made. Not the RAH pilots. I don't want to have to fly the thing but I really don't have a chose now.

Intelligence abounds!
 

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Did you guys not get the memo? RAH is now the defacto domestic carrier for DAL! All the 9's and 80's are going to the desert and they will buy 100's of these 190s to fly around as a "code share". 1000's of DAL pilots will be out and RAH will hire 1000's young ready to go cheap labor to fly a cool new big plane. I don't care if they only pay $23 an hour I'm happy to be flying!

We are F'd if this goes through! WOOOHOOO:puke:

It is sad and probably will happen, it's just a matter of time! This country revolves around cheap, Walmart, dollar stores and you know....you buy stuff made in fricken China that last 2 months, so I can buy it again. Planned obsolescence sucks!!!!
 
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