Horizon to furlough 40 pilots

[pipejockey]

40 pilots, 40 FA's and 40 Mechanics gone huh? So how many managers and office staff were let go as well? I mean it seems only fair they take their hit as well.

 

[jumppilot]

QX is negotiations right? Just negotiate a 6 year recall into a new agreement.

I agree but look at the bigger picture.

Who would want to come back to a regional after 6 years on furlough? Hopefully by then you'll have found a job that pays more. Heck, in that time you could go to nursing school and already a few years seniority at a hospital in downtown Seattle making great money.

Just sayin'.

 

[onewithwings]

With this move, the carrier will layoff 40 flight attendants and 40 mechanics on Aug. 22 and 40 pilots in early November, all according to seniority.
Read more: Horizon to furlough 120 - Puget Sound Business Journal (Seattle)

They forgot to mention the dispatchers that will get furloughed too!

 

[MALSR]

This thread is missing one major point. Horizon pilots and mechanics are in open contract negotiations. The pilot group is on the verge of voting for a TA which most assuredly incorporates pay cuts. With this being said, why on earth would Horizon be the company of milk and honey during these times. Instead, management will make it the worst possible place to be until they get what they want- a pay cut. Conversely, what if management was doing the opposite; making this a great place to be, valuing its employees, etc. Then the company would have no position of leverage with regards to contract negotiations. Its just a game. Some will be able to wait it out better than others. My guess is that when all the pay cuts are in place Horizon will grow with Q400 options going to an LAX base. Management is creating doom and gloom and times of uncertainty (even while maintaining profitability) in order to position themselves for another 9 to 10-year cost structure that suits them.

 

[pipejockey]

The pilot group is on the verge of voting for a TA which most assuredly incorporates pay cuts.

WHAT!!! Are you freaking kidding me? As if it isn't bad enough for regional pilots to take pay cuts when their company is in bankruptcy, now a regional pilot group is going to take pay cuts when their company isn't even bankrupt? I just can't see how this industry can get any worse, then I hear garbage like this. The airline industry has gotten what they want, and that is over half of the domestic flights in this country being flown by the puke regionals because of the significantly lower labor costs, and they can't even spread a little of the savings the pilots way huh? Airline management truly needs to be lined up and mowed down!!!

 

[FCNelson]

Is there ever going to be a cohesive national strategy of regional airline pilots to fix this problem? I don't have a horse in this race anymore, but it is just sad to see this happening to Horizon, which has been a good stable regional for many many years.

 

[GuppyWN]

Alaska Air Group is more than happy to ******************** over the horizon guys. The rest of the Air Group can't be that far behind.

Gup

 

[NWaviator]

To update. They are recalling for a class of 10 in November. The furloughs have been cancelled and there will be upgrades. They don't think many people iwll be coming back so to fill the classof 10 they sent out 23 recall letters. There should be an announcement regarding new flying/domicile today or next week. (Rumor).
Anyone else have any info or heard any rumors? Attrition is through increasing and there have been over 20 leave in the last 2 months. (for Horizon that is a lot).

 

[brownie]

To update. They are recalling for a class of 10 in November. The furloughs have been cancelled and there will be upgrades. They don't think many people iwll be coming back so to fill the classof 10 they sent out 23 recall letters. There should be an announcement regarding new flying/domicile today or next week. (Rumor).
Anyone else have any info or heard any rumors? Attrition is through increasing and there have been over 20 leave in the last 2 months. (for Horizon that is a lot).

I think the revised decision is due to new rest and rigs. Read the the whole 145 pages and i think you be suprised of to y all companys are starting to recall. The company is not doing you a favor they just have to go with flow.:cartman:

 

[NWaviator]

Changed the class from 10 recalls to 20 in the end of Oct. All to the Q.

 

[JetSpeed219]

Changed the class from 10 recalls to 20 in the end of Oct. All to the Q.

Where is that information from? Is it still going to be all SEA based?

 

[QCappy]

Do you know the way to San Jose?

DOT SCASD grant applications involving Horizon:

EUG-SJC http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480b6162a
MFR-SJC http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480b6162b
OXR-SJC http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480b60e5e
CRQ-SJChttp://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480b60e57
MOD-SEA/PDX http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480b60e58

 

[JetSpeed219]

Nevermind, just got my recall letter. The class is now for 20 on October 26th.
QCappy, very interesting. Especially Carlsbad, Modesto, and Oxnard.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Molesto is a big surprise. UA tried MOD-LAX, but that route didn't last long. If QX is adding flights out of SJC, maybe AS isn't too far behind.

 

[CKS747RCC]

40 pilots, 40 FA's and 40 Mechanics gone huh? So how many managers and office staff were let go as well? I mean it seems only fair they take their hit as well.

Their dispatch department has gone from 21 to 12. I'm told dispatch is the only dept. in their SOC that has seen furloughs. But crew scheduling keeps growing.

I read there was 100 mechanics ousted.