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Horizon Pay/work conditions info for Dash drivers

igneousy2

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Hi all,

I would like information on your lines. Typical day offs, pay credit, and per diem. It would be even better if you could just e-mail me a recent bid package I am especially interested in the Dash 8-400, however, Dash 8 200/300 info would be beneficial also.

I would also like information about the FO bidding system. I understand that you get paid what you can hold. How is it working (pilot's perspective). Pro's/Cons?

Thanks

E-mail me a bid packet at igneousy@aol.com if you could.
 

some_dude

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I would also be interested in knowing how many overnights away from home you have.

I know from reading here that the Q400 guys have a lot of nights away on the road, how about the 200 guys?
 

RP170

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You are in the wrong profession if you are worried about how many nights you have on the road.
 

some_dude

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No, it's just that if I were to decide to suffer the low pay and long upgrade time at Horizon, the least I would want is to have a reasonable number of nights at home.

Everything is a tradeoff.

RP170 said:
You are in the wrong profession if you are worried about how many nights you have on the road.
 

igneousy2

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Once again...

I would like information on your lines. Typical day offs, pay credit, and per diem. It would be even better if you could just e-mail me a recent bid package I am especially interested in the Dash 8-400, however, Dash 8 200/300 info would be beneficial also.

I would also like information about the FO bidding system. I understand that you get paid what you can hold. How is it working (pilot's perspective). Pro's/Cons?

This is for an upcoming negotiation...I have your contract but I am more interested in how these numbers work out in real life.

Thanks
 

RP170

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some_dude said:
No, it's just that if I were to decide to suffer the low pay and long upgrade time at Horizon, the least I would want is to have a reasonable number of nights at home.

Everything is a tradeoff.


Have you looked into Chautauqua? Guys are getting 16-18 days off per month right out of training with little or no reserve. Pay isn't the best but quick upgrades (about 12-18 months) and good schedules. If you have 1500 hours you will be hired into the E-170. It's a pretty sweet airplane. Auto-throttles and all.
 

P-Dawg_QX

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some_dude said:
No, it's just that if I were to decide to suffer the low pay and long upgrade time at Horizon, the least I would want is to have a reasonable number of nights at home.
Low pay you say? You should have a chat with our management...they seem to think we're paid way too much.

A brief answer to igneousy's question...

Line holders are guaranteed 13 days off per 35-day bid, and lines typically have between 13 and 16 days off. Min guarantee is 92 hours, and per diem is $1.70. Reserve gives you 12 days off, and utilization varies. I've had bids where I worked all but 2 days, and ones when I worked only 4 days. As an FO, you'll get hired into whatever equipment they need you in, and you're paid based on what you can hold. Our contract screws over FOs because if you move to another airplane, you're locked into the lowest pay scale for 2 years. QOL is what you make of it...if you don't commute, you can live pretty well. The company itself is alright...there are plenty of people who love it, and plenty who hate it. You just need to know that things don't move very quickly, so you'll probably be sitting in the right seat for 5 years.
 

NoJoy

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Min guarantee 92 hrs? Thats pretty good. I don't now of any regional treated that well.
 

illinipilot

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How do I apply? I can't find an address/online application anywhere.

Thanks
 
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PumpkinPony

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igneousy2 said:
Once again...

This is for an upcoming negotiation...I have your contract but I am more interested in how these numbers work out in real life.

Thanks

Who's upcoming negotiation, if I may ask? And how do you plan to use our bid packet in your negotiation?
 

Q400 Gear Bitch

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The trips are not too bad.(compared to the Q200). Those guys work hard. We have bids that are better than the others. I work 4 on 3 off. Most trips are 4 day, but there are 3 and 2 day trips as well. The 4 day trips we do are usually 3 day trips crammed into 4 days of flying (read inefficient). Today for example...1 leg smf-boi. It's a good place to work if you don't plan on upgrading for 8 million years. Good luck
 

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some_dude said:
No, it's just that if I were to decide to suffer the low pay and long upgrade time at Horizon, the least I would want is to have a reasonable number of nights at home.

Everything is a tradeoff.

Whatever dude. Stay away from a west coat regional if you want to progress in this career.

A midwest or east coast regional will hook you up with your goals quicker.
 

rightrudder

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dispatcher121 said:
That's true. The people who plan the trips and the marketing people can't seem to get their act together and make it efficient.

I've been around over 5 years and no one from my initial ground school class has gone left seat yet......sad strory!

Whats the date of hire for the most junior CA? Used to work there and curious. Thanks.
 
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Hardknock

Us 200 bitches get screwed at this comapny. We're the hardest working, lowest paid pilots at QX. We get the 3 day stretched into 4 days trips, (like the one I'm on right now) 13 days off (that's a hard line too) and AM shows where you pick up the damm A/C from the hangar. I hate that crap. Johnny boy needs to get off his a$$ and build better trips of he'll have crews knocking on his door and calling him at o' dark 30 just to fukk with him so he can see what it's like to get up at 3:30 am for that 4:30 show. I've been tempted more than once.
 

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Hardknock said:
Us 200 bitches get screwed at this comapny. We're the hardest working, lowest paid pilots at QX. We get the 3 day stretched into 4 days trips, (like the one I'm on right now) 13 days off (that's a hard line too) and AM shows where you pick up the damm A/C from the hangar. I hate that crap.
Sounds like an Island Air AM schedule. (minus the overnights, of course.)
 
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