Hired @ NJA

[Guitar Guy]

The NJ's schedule is better, half as many days on the road and twice as many at home.

As a new-hire, you're almost for sure going to get the 17-day schedule. Is that really only half as many days on the road as your current job? And those first and last days of tour can run 10, 12 hours or more, so don't think that those beginning and ending days are always just traveling to/from home.

 

[RideTheWind]

What is a typical month like on the 17 day schedule?

 

[Ultra Grump]

Ride:

May schedule: 1 on (carryover from April, 6 total) - 3 off - 5 on - 4 off - 4 on - 5 off - 4 on - 2 off - 3 on (carries over into June). 1 weekend off.

June: 3 on (total 6 on) - 5 off - 5 on - 3 off - 5 on - 6 off - 3 on (no carryover to July) 2 weekends off.

Most start days seem to be a waste for the company - airline somewhere and sit, then go to the hotel. Last days are a mixed bag - some are 13 hrs 59 min and others are an airline home.

My opinion will differ from the majority of posters on the board, but if the money isn't a deterrent (it sucks) and the schedule works for you (worked for me, that's why I'm here), you'd be better off getting in now. Seniority rules and you never know what the new contract will look like regarding new hires after ratification.

 

[RideTheWind]

Thanks for the shcedule info Grump, got a question though, are you saying that if I interviewed and was hired this month before the new contract is active, that I would not get a pay raise or other benifits that the new contract might have?

Now I'm all confused, I thought that all pilots would be under the new contract and everything from the old contract would be void when the new contract is active.

All help is immensely appreciated.

 

[Realyman]

Make it easy and just go to a regional. You EJA guys don't get paid enough for all the work you have to do!!

 

[xpdriver]

Ridethewind,

To answer your question, There is no new contract. When a TA is voted down EVERYONE, included new hires stays with the current contract.. If ya want to come here, then do it. If 17 days is less than your current job then i would say its better. If and when this thing is done it will be better or we will never get a chance to vote on it. Good Luck...

 

[transpac]

Ridethewind

The rejected TA had some grandfathered bennies for the current pilots that would not be available to new hires. That's one reason it was rejected.

 

[Ultra Grump]

are you saying that if I interviewed and was hired this month before the new contract is active, that I would not get a pay raise or other benifits that the new contract might have?

If you look at most contracts, there are provisions and protections provided to pilots on the seniority list as of the date of ratification (think non-furlough clauses, though they didn't end up being worth much). There also may be current practices grandfathered in, that newhires after ratification won't get. I don't think that will happen with this contract, but you never know.