Vrefus
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InstructorPuke
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Just curious.. Congrats on the captain slots... Hope you guys are as excited as me to get the opportunity to come on board...
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Vrefus,
First of all welcome aboard you will absolutely love working for this company. I was just wondering how they went about hiring you into the left seat of the ultra. I know you can hold captain on the ultra your first day on property but I thought that you had to actually bid it to get it. I was just wondering how they worked it all out. Did they even offer any other seats/positions or did they just say that your being hired as an Ultra captain. Just curious. Congrats and welcome to the family.
First of all welcome aboard you will absolutely love working for this company. I was just wondering how they went about hiring you into the left seat of the ultra. I know you can hold captain on the ultra your first day on property but I thought that you had to actually bid it to get it. I was just wondering how they worked it all out. Did they even offer any other seats/positions or did they just say that your being hired as an Ultra captain. Just curious. Congrats and welcome to the family.
I got the call as well today! Hired in as Captain in the Ultra. Indoc. Monday. They didn't offer the right seat as an option. A buddy of mine told me that according to the contract I had to bid the left seat. He said if I wanted to sit right seat that I should be able to request it. I have absolutely no complaints about sitting left seat!!
They said that I was approved for the VII or the Hawker (my first choices) but that the Ultra was the only thing they had slots available the rest of this year.
If everyone is as upbeat and easy to work with as Derinda is in Pilot Recruitment than I can't wait to get started!
See you guys on the road!!
They said that I was approved for the VII or the Hawker (my first choices) but that the Ultra was the only thing they had slots available the rest of this year.
If everyone is as upbeat and easy to work with as Derinda is in Pilot Recruitment than I can't wait to get started!
See you guys on the road!!
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Good Morning Everyone,
First of all, everything Proav mentioned earlier, ditto for me. They said I was recommended for the Hawker 800XP but there were no seats available and all they had was Ultra Captain. So, of course I jumped all over that. I start indoc Monday in CMH on my nickel. Then I come home for two weeks and then back to CMH for school/sim on NetJets. So, this weekend, I'm gonna drive to CMH, don't need to be there w/o wheels or a rental car bill.
Take care everyone.
First of all, everything Proav mentioned earlier, ditto for me. They said I was recommended for the Hawker 800XP but there were no seats available and all they had was Ultra Captain. So, of course I jumped all over that. I start indoc Monday in CMH on my nickel. Then I come home for two weeks and then back to CMH for school/sim on NetJets. So, this weekend, I'm gonna drive to CMH, don't need to be there w/o wheels or a rental car bill.
Take care everyone.
Toploader
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Congrats on the new job, guys......
Think about this, though. Ever wonder why we have over 300 F/O's who won't ungrade?
It's a great job, steep learning curve though. Stay sharp, realize that it's your a$$ out there on the line. Nobody at NJA is going to try to keep your can outta the fire.
Also remember that all you have to do is ask any NJA crewmember for the REAL scoop on the road. This is a fun job, and it's going nowhere but up.
Again, congratulations, and see you on the line!
Toploader
Think about this, though. Ever wonder why we have over 300 F/O's who won't ungrade?
It's a great job, steep learning curve though. Stay sharp, realize that it's your a$$ out there on the line. Nobody at NJA is going to try to keep your can outta the fire.
Also remember that all you have to do is ask any NJA crewmember for the REAL scoop on the road. This is a fun job, and it's going nowhere but up.
Again, congratulations, and see you on the line!
Toploader
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Just spoke to Linda and there are mainly Ultra slots available. Because the overwhelming number of applicants and people not desiring to upgrade in the Ultra, with few exception everyone will get that assignment for the time being. Maybe a few Excel slots are coming around soon.
As far as bidding CA, you will receive a bid form in your job offer packet in a few days. You must fax it back. You will not get paid as a CA until finishing A/C training, according to Mr. McDermand, the main man of recruiting.
Congratulation to all, welcome to NJA.
Please...pleeeese study your call-outs in your packet. It will make your life so much easier!!! Speaking from personal experience.
Yes, shirt and tie during FSI too, except on Fri, Sat, Sun. No jeans.
As far as bidding CA, you will receive a bid form in your job offer packet in a few days. You must fax it back. You will not get paid as a CA until finishing A/C training, according to Mr. McDermand, the main man of recruiting.
Congratulation to all, welcome to NJA.
Please...pleeeese study your call-outs in your packet. It will make your life so much easier!!! Speaking from personal experience.
Yes, shirt and tie during FSI too, except on Fri, Sat, Sun. No jeans.
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Cant speak for all the ultra f/o's, but the reason some are not upgrading are probably the following:
1-no money incentive....already drawing cpt pay
2-will loose their 7 and 7
3-Have sat alot of bullpen and are not comfortable because they do not have alot of time in the a/c
just my opinion....
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1900cpt
1-no money incentive....already drawing cpt pay
2-will loose their 7 and 7
3-Have sat alot of bullpen and are not comfortable because they do not have alot of time in the a/c
just my opinion....
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1900cpt
bizjet737
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people don't bid ultra for several reasons. mainly, there's no incentive to bid capt. in no particular order:
1. work too hard - lots of legs, small rwys, no wx a/p, etc.
2. you get capt pay within a month or two as f/o anyways.
3. it's a lot to learn. not just the plane but the nejets way. You can't learn it all in a few weeks of school/sim/ioe. unless you've been doing this same type of flying, you really need at least one of each season in the right seat.
4. you won't get the 7/7, or at least the 7/7 line you want for quite some time. as a senior f/o you'll get it and keep it longer.
5. same for vacation.
6. f/o's sit bullpen quite a bit. if you live within 100 miles of your gateway, it's a good deal.
7. you want to be a captain AND on probation?
1. work too hard - lots of legs, small rwys, no wx a/p, etc.
2. you get capt pay within a month or two as f/o anyways.
3. it's a lot to learn. not just the plane but the nejets way. You can't learn it all in a few weeks of school/sim/ioe. unless you've been doing this same type of flying, you really need at least one of each season in the right seat.
4. you won't get the 7/7, or at least the 7/7 line you want for quite some time. as a senior f/o you'll get it and keep it longer.
5. same for vacation.
6. f/o's sit bullpen quite a bit. if you live within 100 miles of your gateway, it's a good deal.
7. you want to be a captain AND on probation?
InstructorPuke
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Bizjet737 hit it right on the head with #7!!
I don't mind doing my upgrade and checkride while on probation - you either cut it or you don't. However, I don't want to be flying the line as a Captain while on probation.
While most contracts have provisions in their contract that state if you upgrade during your probationary period, your probation is waived. Our contract doesn't have such a provision.
Why would I subject myself to the additional stress? Especially when I'm still learning how things operate here with my 80 hours!!!
I don't mind doing my upgrade and checkride while on probation - you either cut it or you don't. However, I don't want to be flying the line as a Captain while on probation.
While most contracts have provisions in their contract that state if you upgrade during your probationary period, your probation is waived. Our contract doesn't have such a provision.
Why would I subject myself to the additional stress? Especially when I'm still learning how things operate here with my 80 hours!!!
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Although its true that being a Captain while under probation is tough, its not such a raw deal. Plenty of companies hire pilots as Captains off the street (lots of corporate and charter), and as long as you know the aircraft, you're ok.
Of course, NJA is upgrading guys without any experience in type. In that case you get 250 hours (or more) before you're actually released as Captain. Except for perhaps the Citation X and Ultra, 250 hours takes about 6-8 months. That does not include Indoc, Initial, Upgrade, IOE etc. In my case that took three months (and I was considered quick). So, in other words, its going to be 9 to 11 months before I actually become Captain (Even though I upgraded and got paid as Captain in 3 months). So I fly a month or two as Captain while on probation - not the end of the world.
Of course, NJA is upgrading guys without any experience in type. In that case you get 250 hours (or more) before you're actually released as Captain. Except for perhaps the Citation X and Ultra, 250 hours takes about 6-8 months. That does not include Indoc, Initial, Upgrade, IOE etc. In my case that took three months (and I was considered quick). So, in other words, its going to be 9 to 11 months before I actually become Captain (Even though I upgraded and got paid as Captain in 3 months). So I fly a month or two as Captain while on probation - not the end of the world.
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