What about Doctors. They will go thru a tough training program including the 36+ hour shifts. How safe is that? Should they all band together and say no more? I don't want a fatigued ER doctor woking on me...
This discussion was not about safety, however I agree I also dont want a fatigued doc working on me.
The point was how a system is set up. You can't expect individuals to change a bonifide system unless the system morally corupt. This isn't a MLK jr or Ghandi paradigm.
Everty profession has some sort of PFT. Unless you are on a scholarship.... You have to invest in your career earnings....
Yes, its called college and or, in our case, (flight school) once you have aquired the basic professional knowledge you get Hired.
Not in the comeptive market place of America. This is not a free hand out. Jobs aren't an entitlement. PFTers are working at FedEx making bank. The losers are whining with debt.
If the next guy is willing to make a Masters degree the entry level standard then so be it.
Why should an individual reject PFT when it is a good move for him/her in this competitive captalistic economy?
You can't put the burden of PFT on each individual. If you want to effect positive change it must come from influence and power, not individuals... The problem is the senior doctors and pilots simply say.... "I had to do it.. so let the new guys feel the pain"
Sounds like you should be running for office, the individual is the power. One cant run around blaming everything on the system, just to justify ones own actions. By the way the senior Doctors say you must work your but off I did, so do the senior pilots. Neither of them say pay managment to work here.
PFT is a means to an end... if you don't like it then effect change...but you are dealing with the market place. It is more powerful than nature..? If not pretty damm close... you can't hold back the ocean.
What about ATP's? If i can go out an get my ATP and be more competitive am I a PFTer? Am I making it worse for others? The fact is there are plenty of routes to take in this country to get a jet job. PFT is making it any more difficult that minority hiring...
No, getting an ATP is training, it says your license is an Airline Transport Rating. And you are not paying your "employer" for it. You are paying a Flight School. There is a big difference.
The CRJ puppy farms are training too.
In addition, we live in America. Not Europe. Everybody loves the free market system that provides the cheapest product/service available... but suddenly it shouldn't apply to airline industry? We are trained and conditioned to do things cheaper, better, faster... so why is this any different? If you can't compete in the US Economy then go to Europe or Commie China....
This has nothing to do with cheaper, faster, better, this has to do with working for free, or worse to the direct detriment of others.
Who's going to pay for what in the competitive US market place. Supply and Demand.
Every pilot in this country should refuse to get a four year degree. Why do we need one? The FAA doesn't require it? Why should I have to waste four years and the cash to buy a degree?
Maybe, but you would still pay for flight School
