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Delta CEO: More Cost Cuts Are Necessary
March 23, 2005 10:57 AM EST
ATLANTA - Delta Air Lines Inc. will have to cut more costs to deal with increases in fuel prices because raising ticket fares alone will not do the job, the struggling carrier's chief executive said Wednesday.

CEO Gerald Grinstein said he believes the nation's third-largest airline can avoid a bankruptcy filing, though he indicated at an investor conference in New York that it hasn't ruled out such an option.

"There are always a lot of surprises in the airline industry," Grinstein said in response to a question about the possibility of a bankruptcy filing. "Some companies live on in Chapter 11 much longer than you thought they might. If you make that decision that you're going to do it, there are a lot of things you can explore in order to do that."

He added, "We will take all of the essential steps."

At the same time, Grinstein said the airline is not conceding defeat.

"We are looking at other liquidity opportunities in order to provide that liquidity cushion that will get is through '05 and '06 and we believe by '07 we will become cash positive," he said.

Grinstein added that he believed the company will be able to make it through, but then paused and said, "I hope."

He said Delta is examining every part of its business to find more cuts, though he did not specifically say whether Delta will shed more jobs or lower wages further.

"It is very clear to me that fuel price where it is, we have got to get additional cuts and we are going to do that," Grinstein said.

The Atlanta-based airline announced last September that it would cut up to 7,000 jobs over 18 months, which was on top of 16,000 jobs it slashed since 2001. In October, it won $1 billion in concessions from its pilots.

The concessions helped Delta avoid a bankruptcy filing last fall. But the specter of bankruptcy rose again on March 10 when Delta warned that it will post another substantial loss this year and that a bankruptcy filing remains a possibility.

Current cost cuts apparently have not been enough to sustain the airline because of rising fuel prices. Grinstein said that because of the fuel increases, Delta expects to take a $900 million to $1 billion hit, perhaps even more. He did not say what timeframe he was talking about.

"We will not be able to make (that) up by fare increases no matter how aggressive we are," Grinstein said.

He added that he believes only 25 percent of the fuel increases can be made up through hiking ticket prices. "We have to find ways to be more efficient," he said.

Delta shares rose 13 cents, or 3 percent, to $4.40 in morning trading Wednesday on the New York Stock Exchange.

Besides further cutting costs, Grinstein said another way for Delta to turn things around is by improving customer service.

Grinstein said the airline is on the right track with passengers thanks to its simplified fare structure.

"What we had to do is establish a new position with the passengers and regain some of that trust, and I think SimpliFares has done that," he said.

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Thanks Dizel8, I knew you would be the one to report this. You have to remember that Delta and others are still lobbying Congress for help on the pensions, to stretch out the payments. If they are too cheery, then they might not get that help. If we do get help, it really will save us a lot of money per year, which will probably be used to fight you guys---since you really don't have pension payments at all.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Nah, just copied from the regional board.

Don't worry, summer is coming, Int'l will be huge!
 
Dizel8 said:
Nah, just copied from the regional board.

Don't worry, summer is coming, Int'l will be huge!


You're right!



Delta to Begin New Non-stop Atlanta-Moscow Service
Wednesday March 23, 11:27 am ET - The only U.S. carrier operating service to Russia now adds second gateway on June 1

ATLANTA, March 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Customers will now have more access to Russia thanks to Delta Air Lines' (NYSE: DAL - News) new, non-stop service from Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to Moscow Sheremetyevo International Airport starting June 1. Delta is the only U.S. carrier that operates service to Russia, where it has operated since 1991, and currently flies nonstop to Moscow daily from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK).

The new flight, recently approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation and the Russian government, will operate using Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, which carries up to 204 passengers in a two-class configuration, and features Delta's award-winning BusinessElite service.

"As Russia continues to become an important global destination, Delta's new service will greatly benefit customers traveling between Russia and the U.S. Southeast as well as key business centers in the U.S. Southwest and leisure destinations in Florida," said Jorge Fernandez, vice president - International and Alliances. "Additionally, with more than 1,000 flights per day to more than 180 non-stop destinations, the Atlanta hub will provide unrivaled access to the United States and North America for customers traveling to and from Russia."

"This new service provides travelers with convenient new connection possibilities to and from popular West Coast points, especially in California," said Fernandez. "The service further facilitates trade between the United States and Russia, especially in the high-growth energy and technology industries. And leisure travelers can look forward to visiting famous Moscow sites including the Kremlin, Gorky Park and the famous St. Basil Cathedral."

Delta's new schedule between Atlanta and Moscow, effective June 1, 2005* Flight Departs Arrives 46 Atlanta at 3:55 p.m. Moscow at 10:25 a.m., +1 day 47 Moscow at 12:25 p.m.** Atlanta at 3:50 p.m. * Times subject to change. ** Flight 47 begins June 2, 2005

*** Flights operate daily June-September, four times weekly during the winter and return to daily in May 2006

"Investment and trade with the destination country grow every time a new airline route is established," said Craig Lesser, commissioner of the Georgia Department of Economic Development, "And we look forward to building on Georgia's existing relationships in Russia through this new Delta service."

Delta and its SkyTeam global alliance partners recently welcomed Aeroflot's application for SkyTeam membership. This represents a key milestone in the development of air links between Russia and the United States.

Delta is the leading U.S. carrier across the Atlantic and the world's second-largest airline in terms of passengers carried, offering daily flights to 492 destinations in 89 countries on Delta, Song, Delta Shuttle, the Delta Connection carriers and its worldwide partners. Delta's marketing alliances allow customers to earn and redeem frequent flier miles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. For more information, please visit delta.com.





Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Dizel8 said:
See, like I said, it'll be just fine!

You betcha sizzle chest. Notice how the last groupings of articles said we wouldn't last a year, and now he has plans to give us a liquidity cushion for the next couple years and then supposedly be profitable in 07. Interesting, but they seem to have a plan.


At least your transcons are going well......Aren't they?



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Thought we were going to have to separate you boys on the play ground!

Glad you are playing nice. Ain't dodgeball fun? Just don't aim for the face!
 
What article?
 
Hey General,

Better check the date of that press release. Old news.
 
say again? Which one?


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
"At least your transcons are going well"

Yeah, I guess we are leaving money on the table.

How is Song, still turning killer profits?
 
General Lee said:
Thanks Dizel8, I knew you would be the one to report this. You have to remember that Delta and others are still lobbying Congress for help on the pensions, to stretch out the payments. If they are too cheery, then they might not get that help. If we do get help, it really will save us a lot of money per year, which will probably be used to fight you guys---since you really don't have pension payments at all.


Bye Bye--General Lee


That would be UNFAIR Lee....

Congress should have changed the rules for the USAirways and UAL guys...

Don't hold your breath...

And as you've pointed out time and time again...

Its only a paper loss...
 
8vATE said:
That would be UNFAIR Lee....

Congress should have changed the rules for the USAirways and UAL guys...

Don't hold your breath...

And as you've pointed out time and time again...

Its only a paper loss...

HAHAHAHA. There you go again. You are soooo jealous it is ridiculous. You were turned down, no doubt there. As far as the pensions go, the end result could be the PBGC having more to handle than even now, and they don't want that. They are all for stretching out the payments---so they have less of a burden. Sound about right? Yup. Congress now sees this pension problem as HUGE----and they will probably go our way. You are wrong again.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Dizel8 said:
"At least your transcons are going well"

Yeah, I guess we are leaving money on the table.

How is Song, still turning killer profits?

Song is doing well---since we are adding 12 aircraft to it. Why would we do that otherwsie? Are you smarter than Grinstein? You sometimes think you are. You and I don't have the facts in front of us, but they do, and they have a fiduciary responsibility to do the right things for this company. All we can do here is hope they are doing what is best---and adding more planes to Song infers that Song must be doing ok or better.....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
So I guess Comair and ASA must be makig money too, since they keep getting aeromobiles. Funny, I thougt you kept saying they were a money drain.

I just cannot figure it out: Song makes money, ASA makes money, Comair makes money, Int'l makes money, simplifares makes money, yet Grinstein, who has a fiduciary duty, keeps saying hee needs more cuts and DAL posted the largest loss in aviation.

Of course, it was all a paper loss. Wonder when they will run out of paper down there in Gritsville?

Besides, since GG is so much smarter than you and I, you should probably just give him whatever paycut he comes asking for!
 
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Having listened to the CC, then read the press articles, I must say the press is really putting a negative spin on this. I thought the call overall was pretty positive. No surprises on any negative news. Listen for yourselves and decide, I wouldn't listen to the reuters or ap or any of those idiot reporters, they select negative quotes and spin them how they want. Again, the 10-K is a required SEC filing and has to paint the 'worst case' type scenario. G.G. is still sitting on the fence w/ sale of Comair/ASA, and really it doesn't seem like much is going on, on that front.
Delta's challenge is maintaining adequate liquidity until 2007 when they are cash positive. That is if nothing changes. If necessary debt/equity swaps, convertables, asset sales etc., 'should' buy them the necessary time to do that. I only wish operation clockwork would have been done two years ago, like American did with DFW and ORD. Delta always seems to trail AA in innovation for some reason.


http://www.delta.com/inside/investors/webcasts/index.jsp
 
BigMotorToter said:
Hey General,

Better check the date of that press release. Old news.

Delta to Begin New Non-stop Atlanta-Moscow Service
Wednesday March 23, 11:27 am ET - The only U.S. carrier operating service to Russia now adds second gateway on June 1

???
 
FDJ2 said:
Delta to Begin New Non-stop Atlanta-Moscow Service
Wednesday March 23, 11:27 am ET - The only U.S. carrier operating service to Russia now adds second gateway on June 1

???

No, I MIGHT have slipped in another old Jetblue article, even though it is not there now. MAYBE I DID THAT.......

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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