Heard my first pissed off controller!!!

[UnAnswerd]

Luckily it wasn't me....

Ground (highly annoyed): Cessna 123W, what are your intensions???

Cessna 123W: What do you mean?

Ground (very agitated): Well you're on the ramp and you're supposed to be on the taxiway!!!

Cessna 123W: Oh....

Ground: Cessna 123W, standby for phone number!!!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

...and?.....

.

 

[Kream926]

thats nuthin

anyone fly outta rvs?

 

[Flechas]

like he said, his first pissed off controller, give him a break!

 

[FN FAL]

like he said, his first pissed off controller, give him a break!

Really, I'm surprised we don't tick them off more often. Seems to me that ATC is a relatively calm and professional group of people as a whole.

The other morning, ATC by me was inundated with a plethora...no, a veritable cornucopia of traffic...they did the best they could and I made sure I didn't add to their workload as best as I could. However, since they didn't ask me to spell anything, I was mainly able to escape their wrath unscathed.

 

[CaravanMan]

Yeah, sometimes I don't know how they handle it. I'd go crazy if I were contolling student pilots. No offense to student pilots! We were all there once.

I heard this conv a couple weeks ago while holding behind an Archer waiting to depart:

Pilot: "N12345...uh...ready for take off..."

Twr: "N12345, cleared for takeoff, say direction of departure."

P: ".......cleared.....cleared for takeoff.........."

Twr: "Say direction of departure." (irritated)

P: ".............................direction of departure......."

Instructor: "Southeast."


Hehehe, I couldn't help but laugh. Poor guy! Had my share of those before too.

 

[TonyC]

POLL: Which is more abundant?

The other morning, ATC by me was inundated with a plethora...no, a veritable cornucopia of traffic...

Now, this raises an obvious question. Which word implies the more abundance, "plethora", or "cornucopia"?

It would follow from context and common sentence structure that the writer intends that "cornucopia" implies the larger volume, would it not? It's as if we're led to believe that even as he heard himself speak (ok, type) those words, he realized dissatisfaction in the mental picture presented and took great care to remediate the inadequacy of the picture he had painted by immediately supplying an alternative image of a grander scale. But did he, in fact, succeed?

Let's take a look at Webster's take on the two words:

plethora
Pronunciation: 'ple-th&-r&
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin, from Greek plEthOra, literally, fullness, from plEthein to be full -- more at [size=-1]FULL[/size]
1 : a bodily condition characterized by an excess of blood and marked by turgescence and a florid complexion
2 : [size=-1]EXCESS[/size], [size=-1]SUPERFLUITY[/size]; also : [size=-1]PROFUSION[/size], [size=-1]ABUNDANCE[/size]

(I'd skip the first definition, I think. It looks like it's the second one that applies here. We don't need any images of bodily conditions that involve an excess bllod or turgescences, I don't think. )

cornucopia
Pronunciation: "kor-n&-'kO-pE-&, -ny&-'
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin, from Latin cornu copiae horn of plenty
1 : a curved goat's horn overflowing with fruit and ears of grain that is used as a decorative motif emblematic of abundance
2 : an inexhaustible store : [size=-1]ABUNDANCE[/size]
3 : a receptacle shaped like a horn or cone

(Again, I think we can skip the first definition. I may be way off base, but I doubt the writer intended any images involving goats. )

OK, well, so maybe that doesn't help, after all. Both words cite abundance as a synonym, so they might be interchangeable to a certain degree. Excess and superfluity are fair competitors of "an inexhaustible store."

Perhaps it's the thrid definition of cornucopia that clouds my mental image. The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear the word (or read it, for that matter) is that thing on the pilgrim's Thanksgiving table that's spilled over with vegetables that I mostly wouldn't care to eat. All those odd-shaped and strange-colored gourds and seed pods just don't do much for my appetite. (No, I'm not a fan of anything, much less everything, that contains zucchini, either.) But that's really beside the point. The thing is, the "receptacle shaped like a horn or corn" referred to as a cornucopia is never, and I mean NEVER, big enough to hold whatever it is that's supposed to be held. In other words, it's always pictured as overflowing. Inasmuch as it's always overflowing, it begs the suggestion that something BIGGER should be used to contain all that stuff! Consequently, the thought of "too small" is permanently connected with "cornucopia", at least in my small mind.


So, rather than dig any deeper into fruitless academic research of the relative sizes implied by the use of these words, I'd like to turn this into an informal poll of the readers. I'm recusing myself from the poll, and I believe FN FAL should do the same.

Here's the poll. Please respond with just a letter, A or B.


Which is bigger?

A) plethora

B) cornucopia
















(Yes, I'm bored, and a little disappointed it wasn't Unanswerd that got chewed out. )

 

[User546]

Thats so petty. I'd understand if he'd maybe taxiied by accident onto a runway, or somewhere he shouldn't be.

Or maybe he was suppose to be on the ramp and he was on the taxiway, but for that... come on! Ahhh well, its apart of flying.

Must've been a cranky controller towards the end of long shift!

 

[enigma]

User997, that avatar ain't a gonna last

enigma

 

[User546]

User997, that avatar ain't a gonna last

Then you better enjoy it while you can!

And for the modz, just for the record, she's NOT naked!

 

[DrewBlows]

Looks like someone discovered dictionary.com.

Now, this raises an obvious question. Which word implies the more abundance, "plethora", or "cornucopia"?

It would follow from context and common sentence structure that the writer intends that "cornucopia" implies the larger volume, would it not? It's as if we're led to believe that even as he heard himself speak (ok, type) those words, he realized dissatisfaction in the mental picture presented and took great care to remediate the inadequacy of the picture he had painted by immediately supplying an alternative image of a grander scale. But did he, in fact, succeed?

Let's take a look at Webster's take on the two words:

plethora
Pronunciation: 'ple-th&-r&
Function: noun
Etymology: Medieval Latin, from Greek plEthOra, literally, fullness, from plEthein to be full -- more at [size=-1]FULL[/size]
1 : a bodily condition characterized by an excess of blood and marked by turgescence and a florid complexion
2 : [size=-1]EXCESS[/size], [size=-1]SUPERFLUITY[/size]; also : [size=-1]PROFUSION[/size], [size=-1]ABUNDANCE[/size]

(I'd skip the first definition, I think. It looks like it's the second one that applies here. We don't need any images of bodily conditions that involve an excess bllod or turgescences, I don't think. )

cornucopia
Pronunciation: "kor-n&-'kO-pE-&, -ny&-'
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin, from Latin cornu copiae horn of plenty
1 : a curved goat's horn overflowing with fruit and ears of grain that is used as a decorative motif emblematic of abundance
2 : an inexhaustible store : [size=-1]ABUNDANCE[/size]
3 : a receptacle shaped like a horn or cone

(Again, I think we can skip the first definition. I may be way off base, but I doubt the writer intended any images involving goats. )

OK, well, so maybe that doesn't help, after all. Both words cite abundance as a synonym, so they might be interchangeable to a certain degree. Excess and superfluity are fair competitors of "an inexhaustible store."

Perhaps it's the thrid definition of cornucopia that clouds my mental image. The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear the word (or read it, for that matter) is that thing on the pilgrim's Thanksgiving table that's spilled over with vegetables that I mostly wouldn't care to eat. All those odd-shaped and strange-colored gourds and seed pods just don't do much for my appetite. (No, I'm not a fan of anything, much less everything, that contains zucchini, either.) But that's really beside the point. The thing is, the "receptacle shaped like a horn or corn" referred to as a cornucopia is never, and I mean NEVER, big enough to hold whatever it is that's supposed to be held. In other words, it's always pictured as overflowing. Inasmuch as it's always overflowing, it begs the suggestion that something BIGGER should be used to contain all that stuff! Consequently, the thought of "too small" is permanently connected with "cornucopia", at least in my small mind.


So, rather than dig any deeper into fruitless academic research of the relative sizes implied by the use of these words, I'd like to turn this into an informal poll of the readers. I'm recusing myself from the poll, and I believe FN FAL should do the same.

Here's the poll. Please respond with just a letter, A or B.


Which is bigger?

A) plethora

B) cornucopia
















(Yes, I'm bored, and a little disappointed it wasn't Unanswerd that got chewed out. )

 

[JonJohn82]

thats nuthin

anyone fly outta rvs?

Every now and then.

 

[ISaidRightTurns]

It is very annoying to be covered up and working on intrail for ATL or something else that is important and some guy in a 172 keeps asking to go off frequency, and can you give him the altimeter again, what are the winds...


Normally I try to get them on the high frequency so they can hear that I'm not talking to thin air, and normally there is someone else talking when I unkey.

Quick story,
We have a crossing restriction with ZJX that guys landing JAX over AMG cross AMG @ FL240. So I have a guy SB at FL310, and I give him AMG at 24.

New traffic shows up at 290, and 310 almost head on. So I tell the guy "Amend altitude, descend and maintain FL300"
His reply: "Down to FL300 ...."

Cool enough.

He must have been confused, because he went down to 300, and then waited till he was on the other side of traffic and tried to make his restriction, which I thought I had clearly enough taken away.

Anyway, he nearly backsided the guy at 29. It would have been a pilot deviation, but it's enough to piss you off. Sometimes after things like that happen you tend to be a bit more on edge and angry for a bit.

I guess some people don't take phraseology seriously...

 

[Kream926]

Every now and then.

i wanna buy each and every controller at riverside and all in tulsa tracon, and prob the ones in the cab too a whole bunch of beer for being able to desypher<sp> CHINLISH. props to them.



righturns,
i take it you work at a center, thats my plan B, any advice?

 

[JonJohn82]

Yeah, those spartan folk can be hard to understand. The controllers in the area are pretty friendly.