Hawaiian Jumpseat War

[Hamburger]

If they're not alter-ego, then I guess it is what it is.

I'm sure nobody is more aware of how hard Mesa sucks than the guys who work there. It is tragic that this nickel and dime, chump outfit was the nail in Aloha's coffin.....I find it hard to blame the pilots who are just going to work just like the rest of us. I'm not offering to pay their bills, so I've got nothing to say about the wages/work rules they are willing to accept.

 

[Fltlvls]

If they're not alter-ego, then I guess it is what it is.

I'm sure nobody is more aware of how hard Mesa sucks than the guys who work there. It is tragic that this nickel and dime, chump outfit was the nail in Aloha's coffin.....I find it hard to blame the pilots who are just going to work just like the rest of us. I'm not offering to pay their bills, so I've got nothing to say about the wages/work rules they are willing to accept.

Hard to believe that a new operater in Hawaii with 6 (50 seat) RJs could put a company like Aloha out of business...Not buying it.

 

[islandhopper]

It's about time that somebody figured out that MESA is Deadheading crews on other airlines Jumpseats.

At the beginning of go! airlines, an e-mail was sent out by Mesa management to the go! pilots requiring them to jumpseat out to Hawaii with some faulty line of reasoning given why they would not be bought tickets.

This e-mail was forwarded to the MEC's of several airlines, and was nipped in the bud way back then.

Of course J.O. would never let this happen again.

The worst part was, with the exception of the lone pilot who forwarded the e-mail, most, if not all the other go! pilots complied with the e-mail and did use the jumpseat.

 

[islandhopper]

No, unfortunately not BS. When Mesa was starting up their Go! operation, they simply told several of their crew members to 'get to Hawaii', on their own. I met two of these guys trying to get to HNL and they confirmed it. Word quickly spread to our jumpseat committee, then back to the MAG union, who put a stop to it right away.

HAL

^^^^ confirmed

 

[BoeingBaller]

You may as well deny every regional pilot the jump seat..

 

[RNP.15]

Well after Alaska buys Hawaiian and redeploys Horizon for inter Island service. There will be peace in the valley and everyone will be welcome on the JS to the Islands.

 

[fly4surf]

Ouch.

 

[dooork]

^^^^ confirmed

I don't know what to tell you to get it through your heads. But,here goes,
Do airlines have trackers or schedulers that will try to get you to do something against the contract or FARs....yep....do you do it....nope!
END OF STORY!

 

[islandhopper]

I am not trying to blur anything.

really? I read all of your replies in this thread and you are about as clear as mud.

 

[dooork]

really? I read all of your replies in this thread and you are about as clear as mud.

Follow the contract and FARs. Is that clear to you?
Whats your problem? I am saying that our pilots should never use the jump seat when the company is required to get you there.
GET IT.

 

[Full of LUV]

What about the merge....

Question:

When Go and Mokulele Airlines merged last year, did the seniority lists of Mesa and Republic merge as well? Whatever happened to the original handful of Mokulele pilots whose name/company was used by Republic to try and compete against Mesa?

I also find it odd that Republic and Mesa both use proxy names to start and eventually merge in Hawaii, are they not proud of the Republic and Mesa brand image?
Luv

 

[Fltlvls]

Question:

When Go and Mokulele Airlines merged last year, did the seniority lists of Mesa and Republic merge as well? Whatever happened to the original handful of Mokulele pilots whose name/company was used by Republic to try and compete against Mesa?

I also find it odd that Republic and Mesa both use proxy names to start and eventually merge in Hawaii, are they not proud of the Republic and Mesa brand image?
Luv

They were never merged because Mokulele was never acquired by either Mesa or Republic.Republic has not bought Mesa yet so they never merged list's either.

As far as I know Mokulele still flys their own equipment with their own pilots.

Mesa and Republic never used their own names because I think no one in Hawaii could associate their name and how it would "fit" as a recognizable name like "Hawaiian"...I don't think GO! took a lot of thought, kinda like Song and Ted.

 

[Jim]

As far as I know Mokulele still flys their own equipment with their own pilots.

Republic aircraft have been gone since last year and Mokulele is painted on the side of Go's aircraft. They merged their Hawaii operations, not their companies.

 

[Fltlvls]

Republic aircraft have been gone since last year and Mokulele is painted on the side of Go's aircraft. They merged their Hawaii operations, not their companies.

Hard to keep up ..It's like a soap opera anymore.."As the Prop Turns"

 

[Full of LUV]

Republic aircraft have been gone since last year and Mokulele is painted on the side of Go's aircraft. They merged their Hawaii operations, not their companies.

Really, I think I heard that on Judge Judy once.... They merged their Hawaii operations, not their companies. For gods sake, the planes are painted with both companies name.
Really, does Mesa pilots just do all the flying? Is Republic just an investor now? In the end, it was a couple of regionals trying to steal a brand name of a more local company. I guess it worked for Valuejet/Airtran......
It amazes me that as pilots they allow the companies to treat them in this way. I guess the Hawaii based pilots are just disposable, but thats ok since the cost of living is so low and all.....
Luv