Hangar Ettiquet

[avbug]

I too am not adverse to mild violence, but can't have any witnesses.

Anyone know of a balled-up helicopter wreck located in the mid-atlantic region? I will plop it on the automobile side of the hanger where this guys customers are parking their cars on my side. In the meantime, some of their tires' Schrader Valves could possibly turn up missing.

Good stuff, thank you all for the suggestions.

Don't count me among those manking such suggestions. I believe I specifically stated that such things would be unfortunate and potentially tragic, and that it's very fortunate you're too nice a person to do such things. I certainly never advocated them.

Now that you've posted admissions publically as to your intent, including violence and sabotage, if you're smart you'll safely back as far away from those areas as you can. You just sealed your own conviction.

BTW, I think this might be a federal offense these days.

You are oh-so-correct, sir!

I am suprised that Avbug, the voice of experience would join in this approach to justice.

I make no such advocacy, and have stated as much more than once, now. One may read into those comments whatever one might, yet one might well be mistaken in one's perception thereof.

I said nothing about justice.

I spoke to results. Justice is generally a judgement away from a checkbook, and has little to do with results.

I believe I stated that such things would be indeed unfortunate. I stated that a personal chat is my favored method, but that any of the previously named conditions, to include natural flaws on the ramp surface, would be most unfortunate. I also noted that based on the respondants initial post, he is clearly too nice a person to do anything but pour lemonade for visiting officials.

I also cited events which based on actual results and experience, have resulted in a desired effect. I am an advocate of peace and civility, and settling things with a handshake.

In the daylight.

I also recognize that civility has it's limits, negotiation has it's bounds, and being a gentleman is good and well so long as results are not paramount and one is content to be a martyr at the feet of the alter to Miss Manners.

Most importantly I recognize the one universal truth: there is no such thing as a fair fight.

 

[Moonfly201]

Now that you've posted admissions publically as to your intent, including violence and sabotage, if you're smart you'll safely back as far away from those areas as you can. You just sealed your own conviction.

No intent anywhere in this thread. Just speculation and fond memories of "frontier justice" ... days when lawyers were not needed to equalize injustice.

 

[avbug]

No intent anywhere in this thread.

I too am not adverse to mild violence, but can't have any witnesses.

In the meantime, some of their tires' Schrader Valves could possibly turn up missing.

I think you should probably leave it in the hands of the airport manager, and let it go at that.

fond memories of "frontier justice" ... days when lawyers were not needed to equalize injustice.

You remember that?

 

[Moonfly201]

You remember that?

I grew up in New York. An urban frontier.

 

[avbug]

I think New York quit being a frontier sometime in the early 1700's...

Then again, perhaps rather than the airport manager you might prefer going to the Gotti's or some other latest-greatest east coast powerhouse of all-things illegal. I don't know that I'd consider illegal criminal acts as "justice," and I can't recall a time or place in recent history that ever justified "frontier justice." Then again, I can't recall a time or place in recent history when a frontier existed in the US. I think you're stretching. A lot.

Let the airport manager work out the details. If you do otherwise, you're going to get yourself in a lot of trouble, quite possibly get yourself or someone else hurt, and you're only going to make things worse.

Most important of all, lose that notion of "justice" right now. Justice heralds some mentality of "putting things right" or making things "even," and that's a dangerous path to follow. It's subjective, it is deeply weighted toward your own wants and viewpoints, and offers you no recourse or protection except to always take it to the next level...invariably a place that you don't want to go and if you're smart, are not willing to accept.

 

[sky37d]

I don't know about you, but I never try to get even. It's such an archaic concept. You can't get even. Instead, in my advancing years, I have settled for ahead. Because, behind is behind, and no one cares who was second. I prefer to win. There is no such thing as Frontier Justice,

Since you have already talked to the airport manager, you kind of have to let it sit there and stew. Be patient. Remeber, few things are more dangerous than a patient man.

If nothing happens for a while, you then have every reason to escalate your response.

 

[EagleRJ]

How does he get his machines into the hanger once he's in front of it? He has to use a dolly at some point, unless he's a Man and flies the helicopter into the hanger! It wouldn't take too much longer to dolly it from the edge of the row.

Or, what about having the landlord force him to move to one of the t-hangars on the end closest to the taxiway? Then he can hover taxi to his heart's content and no one will care.

I like the garden hose idea, though. A two-foot deep layer of dry leaves, or a few inches of volcanic ash spread in front of your hanger would be entertaining and effective, too!

 

[Almerick07]

Get out your FAR/AIM do some research,find a reg they bust, call the Feds and sit back and watch their noncompliant attitudes get sent through the ringer by the men in black suits....bound to open up a can of worms

 

[suen1843]

.........Anyone know of a balled-up helicopter wreck located in the mid-atlantic region? I will plop it on the automobile side of the hanger where this guys customers are parking their cars on my side......

LMAO. Now that is what I would call creative thinking. The looks on the faces of both the owners and the customers would be priceless!

 

[flint4xx]

If it were me, in addition to some good ideas above, I would be doing my engine runup right in front of their hanger. Nice long high power runup. Better double check those mags...
It would be a shame if some debris flew into their hanger.

 

[DX Rick]

Next time he wants to hover by and not wait for you to close the door. Point your .50cal at him. I'm sure he'll move.

 

[Pedro]

Next time he wants to hover by and not wait for you to close the door. Point your .50cal at him. I'm sure he'll move.

Wow, how come nobody thought about that before...

 

[dash8driver]

Wow, how come nobody thought about that before...

cuz fn fal's asleep at the wheel!

i'm with avbug on the unfortunate things that happen on occasion. also if you happen to do that engine runup or otherwise blow into his hangar...dont forget to tell him its free of charge, or you appreciated him cleaning out your hangar and you just wanted to return the favor.

 

[FN FAL]

cuz fn fal's asleep at the wheel!

Hahaha :nuts:

 

[A Squared]

I like the garden hose idea, though. A two-foot deep layer of dry leaves, or a few inches of volcanic ash spread in front of your hanger would be entertaining and effective, too!

An even better idea is a sheet of visqueen or even a blue tarp. picks up itne rotor wash *much* better than a hose, and will absolutely destroy a rotor system once it wraps around the mast