Gulfstream to fly Delta Connection

[Kingairrick]

As of yesterday at 4:00PM, only 1 Brasilia parked at the hangar @FLL. No paint whatsoever on it. Ratty looking and all white...

 

[CRJDog]

And Gulfstream was allegedly obtaining all of COEX's ATRs, oh, and then it was our 120's, and 5 years since I have heard this....they have our 1900's and Skywest has our 120's in IAH.

Continental Express Express'

I guess you have to crawl out of your rock a little more often. The ATR deal died years ago. Fedex bought those POS ATR's you guys had.

As for the DL deal it is true. They are supposed to operate DL flights in the islands and inter-florida flights. I think the project was held back since they had a mass exodus of captains and some FO's so they had to focus on manning the CO schedule and so on.

 

[CF34-3B1]

Don't know if it's true or not, but if it IS, how ironic would it be that CHQ gets a taste of their own medicine.

Wonder what the Gulfstream FOs would pay an hour to log some EMB170 time.......

But it's ok, cause they'll get the growth and upgrade sooner that way........

 

[stuart716]

from what i understand the 120's wont be for the 250 program.

 

[CHQ-FO]

Seem strange that Delta would add props when they advertise MCO as the all-jet regional hub.

 

[h25b]

Don't know if it's true or not, but if it IS, how ironic would it be that CHQ gets a taste of their own medicine.

Wonder what the Gulfstream FOs would pay an hour to log some EMB170 time.......

But it's ok, cause they'll get the growth and upgrade sooner that way........

"D*mn it...I need to get hired quick then before I have to pay for a job like the rest of the Gulfwhores.!"


I REALLY don't mean to stir any pots here, BUT... I distinctly remember Comair & ASA being PFT in the not so distant past, or am I slightly confused. I personally know at least a half dozen dudes there that forked over a ton of dough for their jobs. Personally, I don't hold it against them. Just seems like throwing stones in the 'ol glass house by some of the ASA/Comair folks these days. This was going on as late as 1998 I believe, people sure do mount the high horse quickly. Yes, it has been 6 years now, but that places these guys in the left seats of a CRJ...

Just food for though... Not flame...

 

[stuart716]

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you sound bitter that you cant get a job. professionalism is something that people take seriously in this profession and resorting to derogatory comments about a pilot is not a way to make friends.

 

[sejac]

I am a Gulfstream captain and the rumor is true. We have recieved 2 EMB 120's from ASA so far and the rest of the 7 confirmed will be on the way shortly. The first class of pilot training will be in September. Delta was down and did an audit for a Connection codeshare. The deal is still moving foreward. Rumor is that once it is signed, 5 or 6 more will be bought. They are being painted in generic Gulfstream colors so that they can be used for both Delta flights and Continental flights.

 

[Rally]

Are people going to pay for the right seat too OR are they actually going to hire first officers?

 

[CF34-3B1]

"D*mn it...I need to get hired quick then before I have to pay for a job like the rest of the Gulfwhores.!"


I REALLY don't mean to stir any pots here, BUT... I distinctly remember Comair & ASA being PFT in the not so distant past, or am I slightly confused. I personally know at least a half dozen dudes there that forked over a ton of dough for their jobs. Personally, I don't hold it against them. Just seems like throwing stones in the 'ol glass house by some of the ASA/Comair folks these days. This was going on as late as 1998 I believe, people sure do mount the high horse quickly. Yes, it has been 6 years now, but that places these guys in the left seats of a CRJ...

Just food for though... Not flame...

After a quick glance at the current seniority list, it looks like about 15% of pilots currently on property did PFT.

Our current (6 year old) contract partially reimbursed those who did PFT. I wasn't PFT (nice shot though) so I'm not sure of the actual % of payback, but I believe it's 50%. I know our current negotiations seek to raise that to 100% for the few remaining PFT pilots on property.

The fact that this pilot group stood up to end PFT and that kind of practice, instead of laying down to perpetuate it, as some current groups do, speaks volumes about the relative differences in character and general attitudes of the various "regional" pilot groups.

High horse? No, not really, but when a pilot group is down on its knees, I suppose anyone not willing to get down there with them looks pretty high.

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

High horse? No, not really, but when a pilot group is down on its knees, I suppose anyone not willing to get down there with them looks pretty high.

LOL..Well said!! LOL

 

[h25b]

CF34-3B1,

Thanks for your response. My intention was to get some answers to this issue from someone, like yourself that actually knows what they are talking about. Also, to hopefully educate the idiot masses that throw terms like "w&ores" around. I was not trying to be disrespectful to the Comair guys/gals at all, simply to inform these types of morons that when they use that term they can also offend some of their own. There are quite a few PFT's at Comair, it worked out for them obviuosly. I personally would not have done it, but I don't hold it against anyone either.

Just wanted to remind people that Comair hasn't always been the great place that it is now.

 

[wannab0133]

pft

18k/year for a job is pft, period. anyone with a college degree nowadays can get at least 35k(outside aviation), so it seems everyone who is accepting 18k for a crap job is paying 17k just to work there. and that is only the first year.

 

[NoName]

this is actually true. gulfstream is to be doing delta flying in inner florida and ilands. chataga is going to be re deployed to do the longer flying. i think the total number of brasilias is to reach around 20. rumor of them doing some dfw stuff also. dont know if rumor of 20 is to cover just florida or florida and dallas

 

[BoilerUP]

NoName, welcome back bro!

Are the Brasillas Gulfscream is getting the same ones Corpex was supposed to get to do the AX RDU flying???

I don't have any beef with t-props or t-prop drivers, hell I'd like to fly one myself. But do you really think pax who are used to a E135 would go into an old E120? They would b!tch to high heaven...but as long as the tickets were $99 one way transcon, something tells me they'd b!tch but get on just as well.

I thought Delta was trying to get back to good customer service? Maybe the FAs will be hot college women, who knows... We shall see soon enough.