Gulfstream overrun at TEB

[hawkerflyer]

Curious to know who is responsible for the cost in replacing the EMAS, operator, airport or both?

 

[say again]

Doesnt surprise me. that airport has no reguard for x-wind, landing with tailwinds and many of things that makes me think that that airport is a accident waiting to happen.

So you're saying pilots can't think for themselves?!?! Please.

 

[JJET44]

My 2 cents........Pilots' are affraid of the missed approach! We don't want to admit that we messed up the approach, I know I've been there and so have most of you and you say "NOT ME" then you're full of s**t! Everyone has been outside of the stablized approach criteria atleast once in their life and has said "I CAN SAVE THIS."
This is nothing more then a human factors issue!

 

[Fly91]

My 2 cents........Pilots' are affraid of the missed approach! We don't want to admit that we messed up the approach, I know I've been there and so have most of you and you say "NOT ME" then you're full of s**t! Everyone has been outside of the stablized approach criteria atleast once in their life and has said "I CAN SAVE THIS."
This is nothing more then a human factors issue!

AMEN.........

Couple months ago going into HPN the wind was gusting 20 almost direct crosswind with some wind shear. Clear skies. Global Express that landed 5 minutes in front of us reported loss/gains of 15+......I had to go around at about 50 feet, sumbitch was getting tossed hard. Falcon 50 behind me went around. My second time I landed ok, but it was a handful. Falcon had to go around again. 3rd time was a charm for the Falcon. After we parked we watched two airliners go around.....and one airliner while we were taxiing in said to ground control its beyond company weather limits to take off so they waited (can't remember who it was)...it was nuts.

Good to see pilots that don't give a damn about the passengers timelines and appointments or care at all what other people think if they go around.......these are the ones that don't need barriers to help them stop.........lol........

 

[ElCid88]

Curious to know who is responsible for the cost in replacing the EMAS, operator, airport or both?

Aircraft owner pays for EMAS repair either with cash or insurance. I recently found this out at a meeting with airport managers.

 

[waddawurld]

Are you sure about who gets charged (re:EMAS)? I flew for Gemini years ago and one of our MD11's went into the EMAS @ JFK-- I believe the company was not charged(ins or otherwise...)

 

[ElCid88]

According to the airport managers that I met with the repairs to an overrun onto EMAS are the responsibility of the aircraft owner/insurance company. At our airport the repairs to the EMAS cost about $250,000., and the manager said that the owner wrote him a check that same day as opposed to using insurance. As far as the airlines go, I don't know how they handle it. Maybe they have an agreement with the airports.

 

[BoilerUP]

I'd have to imagine repairing EMAS is a hell of a lot cheaper for an insurance company than the damage the airframe would otherwise incur (and cause) without it...

 

[ElCid88]

I'd have to imagine repairing EMAS is a hell of a lot cheaper for an insurance company than the damage the airframe would otherwise incur (and cause) without it...

Exactly.

 

[JJET44]

Meridian is now looking for a G-IV capt. based in TEB. Anyone suprised?

 

[rice]

Meridian is now looking for a G-IV capt. based in TEB. Anyone suprised?

Settle down Francis!!!!
The openings are not for the plane that went off the end. Inside word is that the hiring is for a new client bringing a G-IV to the certificate.
BTW, if you're applying you might want to spell check your resume.

 

[semperfido]

Pilots helping pilots


..... Oh, that's over at the other place.

 

[LJ45]

from the NTSB:

"According to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector, review of airport surveillance video indicated that the airplane touched down on runway 6 near the intersection of taxiway "L," which was about 2,250 feet before the departure end of runway 6. The inspector observed damage to the airplane's nosegear landing light and damage consistent with foreign object damage to both engines."
"The weather reported at KTEB, at 1334, was: wind from 360 degrees at 12 knots, gusting to 19 knots; visibility 3 miles in light rain; broken ceiling at 600 feet, broken ceiling at 2,200 feet, and overcast ceiling at 4,000 feet; temperature 17 degrees C; dew point 14 degrees C; altimeter 29.62 inches of mercury. "
"The PIC further stated that at no point did either pilot believe there was not adequate runway remaining to continue the landing."

REALLY? I normally turn off at Taxiway "L" not touch down there. I guess maybe a go-around was in order?

 

[JJET44]

Settle down Francis!!!!
The openings are not for the plane that went off the end. Inside word is that the hiring is for a new client bringing a G-IV to the certificate.
BTW, if you're applying you might want to spell check your resume.

Don't worry, I wouldn't lower myself to work for a company like Meridian.

 

[rice]

Don't worry, I wouldn't lower myself to work for a company like Meridian.

Not worried and honestly I couldn't care less about Meridian.
Point is your post smacked of D'baggery toward the crew of the G-IV that went off the end and toward Meridian for your implication that the ad was posted to replace them.

Just sayin'................