Gulfstream Academy Closed???

[bobbysamd]

Gulfstream

That is rich. So, now, instead of being charged $54,997 minimum for the full zero time through P-F-T 250 You can now pay Gulfstream a mere $23,940 to P-F-T. Such a deal!

Copied from the Jet Careers board post referenced above
We are excited with our new status and that just means more job opportunities for our F/O when they complete the training because we will be training for a lot of these regionals now.

But will these regionals actually hire these Gulfstream "veterans?" Implying, perhaps, that Gulfstream does not hire its own FO P-F-T trainees.

Once more, it's a hiring crapshoot, downsized from $54,997, to a "mere" $24K. If that money is really burning a hole in your pocket, how 'bout spending it on a valid, marketable credential, such as your CFI, as opposed to questionable, paid-for "experience"?

 

[B190Captain]

Re: Gulfstream

That is rich. So, now, instead of being charged $54,997 minimum for the full zero time through P-F-T 250 You can now pay Gulfstream a mere $23,940 to P-F-T. Such a deal!
But will these regionals actually hire these Gulfstream "veterans?" Implying, perhaps, that Gulfstream does not hire its own FO P-F-T trainees.

Once more, it's a hiring crapshoot, downsized from $54,997, to a "mere" $24K. If that money is really burning a hole in your pocket, how 'bout spending it on a valid, marketable credential, such as your CFI, as opposed to questionable, paid-for "experience"? [/B]

Give it a rest will ya Bobby?

 

[bobbysamd]

Gulfstream

Give it a rest will ya Bobby?

Well, if the shoe fits . . . .

I hope that the place treats its primary and commercial students equitably, as was written above. But, in my $0.02, it is P-F-T, and I must question its value. Especially if after the P-F-T'ers finish their hitches they must build enough total and multi for normal regional mins.

 

[T-Gates]

You know what Bobby, you have posed theese exact questions before and they have been answered. Everyone is cocked and ready to scream SCAM when they hear Gulfstream's name. Those who are working on thier ratings are going to recieve fair treatment getting either a refund or transfer to another school. Just because one school (i.e. ATA) went under in fraudulant style earlier this March, dosen't mean that every school is going to end it's existence with a class-action lawsuit. Don't make this thread another useless PFT discussion. If you want to engage in one, there are quite a few going on the other boards. As for students getting hired? 100 in the last year, how about that. That's about a 85-90% placement rate. Mostly with Pinnacle.

The only reason I feel any need to "stand up" for GIA is because as long as people keep asking questions that never get answered no one will know the truth. Good or Bad.

It amazes me that any thread mentioning Gulfstream turns into a PFT discussion. Bobby, over the past 2 years you have made it quite apparant that you hate PFT, dislike those who PFT, and those who offer PFT. And that you are in your current position because you were adimantley against PFT in the early-90's. That is all well and good, but I'm getting sick of the rhetoric. This thread is about people that have never PFT'ed and are now looking for a new flight school. You have done your part Bobby, hang up the hat and lay off PFT for awhile. We all know how you feel.

Just my .02,

--03M

 

[PCL_128]

Right on N9103M! Couldn't have said it any better myself.

 

[B190Captain]

I second that!!

 

[350DRIVER]

They need to shut the entire Gulfjoke "rent a seat" program down -... IF only the general public knew they were getting 1 pilot and 1 who is renting a seat out- pretty sad and absolutely disgusting that anyone would "whore" themselves out to such a joke of a training program, but I guess it you have half ar$e skills and lacking in a few areas then go there and have them hold your hand and they can walk you through the program.- (always a big laugh to hear the "gear movers" work the radios down south)

What a complete joke-

I would walk or take a greyhound before I ever flew on them

 

[350DRIVER]

That is rich. So, now, instead of being charged $54,997 minimum for the full zero time through P-F-T 250 You can now pay Gulfstream a mere $23,940 to P-F-T. Such a deal!

fools will always be fools.... - I guess a few out there like to "whore" themselves out and take the "easy" way out... Bobby atleast you and I and most others can look in the mirror every morning and know we didn't undercut the industry nor have to take any shortcuts to get to where we are... I try to make it a point every chance I can to steer family, friends, etc, from ever flying on them. Those with half ar$e skills though can go there (which they do) and know they will be "babied" and walked through by the hand and not have to worry about washing out.

"Hey daddy thanks for "renting" the right seat out for me and allowing me to "look" like a pilot for a day" - "golly by golly jee daddy don't I look like a "real" one- ) "0"

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[T-Gates]

They need to shut the entire Gulfjoke "rent a seat" program down -... IF only the general public knew they were getting 1 pilot and 1 who is renting a seat out- pretty sad and absolutely disgusting that anyone would "whore" themselves out to such a joke of a training program, but I guess it you have half ar$e skills and lacking in a few areas then go there and have them hold your hand and they can walk you through the program.- (always a big laugh to hear the "gear movers" work the radios down south)

What a complete joke-

I would walk or take a greyhound before I ever flew on them

I left something in the toilet this morning that had about the same level of intellegence as that post.

I'm guessing by that post, you have flown with a Gulfstream pilot and personally observed that his/her flying skills were below a level of what you beleive to be acceptable. You'd have to be one arrogant son-of-a b!tch to say otherwise.........

You have assesed our (current and former GIA pilots) flying skills as below average based on nothing else than "what you have heard on the radio down south" and probaly what you have read on this board. Well lets look at the other people that you are taking cheap shots at besides those who you like to call PFT Whores. What about the FAA inspector that sat in on my Oral and Checkride when I did my initial training at GIA, was he holding my hand? Would he put his job in peril? What about the man who signed me off for IOE in the Beech, was he in on it too? (Also a frequent poster on this board) Would he put his career and certificate on the line? What about any check airman I have flew with here at Pinnacle.... Think about it you are taking pot shots at a LARGE group of very qualified pilots. Certainly much more qualified than yourself.

If all you can come up with is name-calling baseless gibberish then you need to go home and come back when you have some hard info to support your comments. Otherwise I'm just going to discount you post as nothing more than someone starving for attention.

"Hey Mom....Look at me! I'm making fun of the PFT whores!"

Go somewhere else for awhile and come back when you can engage in a discussion, not a 8th grade namecalling session.

--03M

 

[350DRIVER]

N9103M,

I personally could care less what you feel towards I and the many of the other pilots on this board who discount PFT and the practice of "buying" a job, you have done nothing more than undercut this industry, took a shortcut, took that seat away from someone else who has came up the ranks the "right way",etc,.. Post as you may but I am pretty sure posts coming from someone who did the practice does not gain much respect from other pilots within this industry. Atleast I can wake up every morning and know for a fact that I did things the right way and took no shortcuts. I hold little if any respect for someone who knowingly took that seat and whored out just to get there "quicker"- The program is a complete "joke" and does nothing good for this industry as a whole, thank God Gulf. is the only one of its kind operating today. Wake up, better you than I ....

what a joke

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