GTA Air

[cosmotheassman]

Don't go to either of these places. I interviewed with Telesis last year. What a freagin joke that place was. The "Ted" guy was a major loser also. It was probably the most disorganized office I have ever been in. Paperwork on the floor, cat5 cables hanging from the ceiling, and a chief pilot that barely spoke english. I was desperate for work at the time but, not that desperate.

Ted said they wanted me to fly the single engine for 6 months before I moved into the twins! I turned the job down during the interview and in fact, left early because I didn't like it. Ted continued to call me 3 times after I told him "NO". I finally had to be rude and tell him to stop calling me. They must be really desperate for pilots. Another bad thing is they only pay you $1000 a month AFTER you finish training. I don't remember the lady's name but, she was the "HR" person and was really nice. She basically was discouraging me from taking the job while I was interviewing with her (what loyalty). I am glad I didn't take this job because subsequently, I got a job flying a Hawker 800XP, go figure... Guys, all I can say is be patient. If you are in a situation where flying doesn't have to be your sole source of income, don't "settle" for one of these type of jobs. It's not worth it.

 

[Duderino]

Pilot guy you nailed it. It is unfortunate that people like this GTA are out there to take advantage of pilots. I personally couldn't live with myself having people that worked for me, and treating them the way Doug GuNderminduh and Smoking Bonnie Lungs treat people. It is very unusual how rude they are face to face with someone. It just shows they could care less about you or anybody else.

135fr8r that sucks about your friend giving his two weeks notice and then getting fired. I beleive I had heard about that from someone. It is a little bit funny though.

Wingnutt, I flew freight from 500 TT thru 1500 TT at night in 402C with no radar all over TX and NM and LA and Mexico. Thats how I cut my teeth. Don't miss any of it.

SigAv8r I never flew for GTA as a VFR guy, I was checked out IFR. I don't remember a training contract, but I would have signed it anyways because all that is, is a piece of paper the can wipe there ass with. It wouldn't do anything for them in court.

 

[psysicx]

Is Texstar much better?

 

[cosmotheassman]

A few years ago Texstar had a king air that crashed in denton I believe. One of the wings literally came off after take-off. Anyone else remember this?

 

[Duderino]

It wasn't a king air was it? I think it was a Cessna 400 and was a problem with the wing spar caused by the iron side of the turbo. There is an AD for Cessna 400s now because of this problem. Texstar wasn't that bad a place to work. I had fun, and the pilots were a good group of guys. Anyone know if Joiner finally got on with Airlink? Hope So.

 

[Peace]

hi

hey guys


john joyner got on as pinnacle, he is a captain now based out of detroit. Been a captain now for 8 months.

 

[wingnutt]

oh what-the-hell-ever

you guys crack me up. its such a bad place, but one of you applied there, and didnt get the job, so you decide to bash them. the other one got the job and now that you have a comfy job, feel free to bash them...and yet proudly display the airplanes you flew for them on your profile

pay...the pay starts at 1,000 a month (not 800) and 500 more once you fly the twins, and there are (were!) raises available. texstar pay is the same 1500 to fly their twins. telesis i believe was the same 1500 to start, but had quicker raises. martinaire only pays ~300 more to fly caravans, also at DFW...and we wont even start with first year pay at the regionals

dont get me wrong, none of the 3 piston operators are anything to crow about, and the pay does suck. but, its not a job meant to stay at for any lengthy period of time. do it for awhile, get some twin time and move on. bitch about it if you must, but just remember where you came from...or perhaps where you wanted to come from

 

[414Flyer]

It wasn't a king air was it? I think it was a Cessna 400 and was a problem with the wing spar caused by the iron side of the turbo. There is an AD for Cessna 400s now because of this problem. Texstar wasn't that bad a place to work. I had fun, and the pilots were a good group of guys. Anyone know if Joiner finally got on with Airlink? Hope So.

I think that was 98 or 99 when that happened, wing came off of one of their 402s as it was descending, I believe in Oklahoma. Heard the pilot screamed all the way down on the radio, horrible way to go....

 

[pilot_guy]

you guys crack me up. its such a bad place, but one of you applied there, and didnt get the job, so you decide to bash them. the other one got the job and now that you have a comfy job, feel free to bash them...and yet proudly display the airplanes you flew for them on your profile

pay...the pay starts at 1,000 a month (not 800) and 500 more once you fly the twins, and there are (were!) raises available. texstar pay is the same 1500 to fly their twins. telesis i believe was the same 1500 to start, but had quicker raises. martinaire only pays ~300 more to fly caravans, also at DFW...and we wont even start with first year pay at the regionals

dont get me wrong, none of the 3 piston operators are anything to crow about, and the pay does suck. but, its not a job meant to stay at for any lengthy period of time. do it for awhile, get some twin time and move on. bitch about it if you must, but just remember where you came from...or perhaps where you wanted to come from

Like I said, I didn't know they only paid 800, or even 1000 at the time I applied. If I would've known that (they wouldn't discuss pay, guess they were too embarassed.) I wouldn't have applied. Besides, I was only looking for a part-time gig anyway.

Sorry Charlie, I don't have to fly for a living, so I'm not gonna work like a slave for bullsh*t wages. Likewise, because I do have a good job, I won't accept low pay just to have the chance to fly, thereby lowering the payscale for my fellow pilots. We need more loyalty within our ranks, and no, I'm not a union member either. You want people to work like they're at Wal-Mart, don't be surprised when your pay takes a nose dive because of it.

Don't believe me? Ask anyone in the building trades, road construction crews, or fabrication (welding, pipefitting) industry. After the influx of cheap labor, those previous "good paying" jobs now pay the avg. of 13-14/hr. No, I don't work in those fields, but I know many who do.

You're not immune. I love your logic. "We won't even start with first year pay at the regionals." As if they are a metering stick, or it is ok to work for sh*t, cause you have to at the regionals. Just because they pay crap doesn't make them ok either. You sound like a "company man" to me.

Stop telling people it's ok to be a tool.

 

[pilot_guy]

Better yet, could I get you some ice for that big glass of Kool-Aid you're drinking there, sport?