Tanker Clown
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GuppyWN, have they actually been firing people without cause? That's got to be a first in SWA history.
Says the brand new FNG who paid for his job, and might not be able to recoup his PFT!
I'm sure you and Milpilot17 know about going "deep enough.":laugh:First of all the type has been paid for, second if they ever have to furlough in the first place and then go deep enough to reach me we will have a lot more serious problems.
If you feel like you have to use profanity to get your point across then I'm sorry, but you have to forget about that rejection letter we sent you and just move on.
I'm sure you and Milpilot17 know about going "deep enough.":laugh:
Profanity? FNG=Furloughed new guy!
Speaking of letters, when can you expect your (furlough) letter? I'm sure with all the growth at Volaris and Westjet you can apply and pay for a job there.
Having a discussion with you is liking talking to an !diot. In the end you are still an !dot.
Take Care!
No one said it was perfect, but I am sure it is better than where you work !
No, the flight attendants did during their last contract.
Your leadership wouldn't do that to you. Your morale is important to them because the customers see it in the employees. This type of talk is the same type of greed that has destroyed the US auto industry. The unions get bloated contracts and then don't give its members any incentive to produce a better product.
Look at the military. No union contract. We are well paid and have a great retirement plan. And to top it all off, we're the best in the world. Maybe the 121 folks should try and mirror what we do in the military.
You are dead wrong. Management has screwed labor for years and will continue to lower wages and QOL as long as we let them. I can't even believe you are comparing the military to 121. Why do you think unions were created in the first place. Because management treated people so well and made sure the workplace was safe. Dude, get a grip. Your job is guaranteed buy the govt and paid for by tax payers. You get yearly pay raises and pensions, both of which have been taken from 121 pilots over the past several years. You are not comparing apples to apples.
I can't beleive you think morale is important to management. Its been my experience it is just the opposite. They want us scared all the time. I am not trying to start an arguement but unions are necessary.
Unions had their place in the sweat shops of the 19th century. Now they are just organizations that destroy companies. Just look at the big 3. They are getting blown out of the water by non union competitors. Now, to stay competitive, they're going to need government subsidies.
You should "get a grip" and realize that mgt is there to grow the company and therefore protect your job security. Look at what companies are successful. They tend to be non-union. Wal-Mart, Toyota, ect.
Do tell Gup. You seem to be among a very FEW and select individuals here. The VAST majority of us are well aware of the challenges we face. As LABOR ( I know we all hate to accept this reality) we are always using management comp. as a measure of what we think WE should have. Without getting into a long discussion, it is safe to say that GK's compensation is well below that of most overcompensated CEO's in corp. America. Perhaps we all should have followed a different path if that is how we look to measure??
People keep talking COLA but that is ridiculous. 'We are in deflation and the COLA is moving backwards. We want d-cola.
You misunderstand me. I don't Gary is overpaid when compared to his peers. What I do think is that it's mighty hypocritical to take 100% raises for two straight years not including stock grants and then tell me I don't deserve a Cost of Living Adjustment.
I've asked this question many times and never gotten an answer. I'll ask you since you seen happy to be here.
Can someone give me even one example of codeshare that was a true benefit in jobs and/or career expectations for the "mother" carrier?
I'd be very leary of voting yes to ANY contract with codeshare. I'm a captain so "I've got mine" but I'd sure like to help you take care of you and me.
Gup