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[BigLebowski]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

Very true...Everybody seems to have forgotten about that.

 

[Dave's kid]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

The TSA pilots were given an "opportunity" that would have meant a pay cut to fly the CRJ-700 and furlough protection for the current GoJet pilots. I don't see how there was much of a choice.

 

[motch]

To set the record straight..

TSA pilots were given a memo that stated that they could transfer to G0J3TS and take UP TO 5 YEARS SENIORITY with them.

They would be required to resign from TSA.

At the time, that would have meant leaving to fly a larger aircraft for a payscale that was LESS than what was and still is in our current CBA.

Please get the facts straight.

Always
Motch

 

[Flybet3]

I hope they get a pay raise. That would be some funny a$$ sh**

 

[wdinnis]

????????

 

[sqwkvfr]

EDIT: Never mind....I've decided not to touch the "third rail" of this board.

 

[Snapshot]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

Hard to imagine they chose to have dignity instead.....

 

[redbook]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

FlyHI,

Normally you would spin the facts and twist the truth. This time you just flat out lied.

If we had been given the opportunity to carry over longevity and seniority, it would have eroded much of the whipsaw/alter ego effect contrary to the intent of Trans States Holdings.

Still at gojet? Or should I ask how is Skybus?

 

[Tarzan]

Very true...Everybody seems to have forgotten about that.

Come one Big. You remember what the deal was to capture that flying? Go Jet would have had furlough protection. An extension of an already garbage contract. The fence on bidding that would severely limited how often you could put in a bid for 700 flying.

In hind sight, maybe we should have lost that battle to secure some better scope but what this group of pilots did was not right.

 

[Lav Service]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

Instead they chose to have some self respect and take a stand. The last thing they wanted was a piece of sh!t like you to have any sort of furlough protection. Enjoy your 15 RJ's, I hear UAL just loves you guys.

 

[skyking96]

Getting hosed by GOJet

I hope you know who you are talking to. How about grown adults with families to take care of? How about a few hundred guys that left years of seniority to go elswere and start over? How about guys living in base who are now commuting? How about us regional dorks? Aren't we something? How about you? Have you ever been put in a situation like this by a selfish company and fellow pilots who basically burnt the place down?

I hope Trans States doesn't survive. They have been crippled in a bad way, not because of the TSA guys but because of their decision to make GoJet a seperate airline and because of the decisions of a few pilots to stomp all over the seniority of guys who were patient enough to stay put in hopes of climbing the seniority ladder and being able to take care of their families.

This is just my rant from one regional dork to another. Have a great day.

--Could not have said it better myself!!!! I'm right there with ya buddy!!! Commuting is still better than being stuck at that H-Hole!!

 

[skyking96]

To set the record straight..

TSA pilots were given a memo that stated that they could transfer to G0J3TS and take UP TO 5 YEARS SENIORITY with them.

They would be required to resign from TSA.

"5 years of seniority"...the pay equivilant ONLY! Just to make that clear!

 

[vectorvictor]

Every single TSA pilot had the opportunity to carry over 100% longevity and seniority to GoJet.

Are you serious? Way to point the finger and laugh at the folks that refused to relieve themselves on their career.

 

[Pacific]

I left as soon as all this GoJet sh** came to a head. I could no longer contribute in the lining of HK's pockets with American Dollars. Get the hell away from TSA, those GoJet scumbags, that joke of a management staff, and as soon as you can let it all go your life will improve. Easier said than done I know.
Good luck to you TSA guys, and nothing but the worst for you GOJet punks.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Deleted.... I just can't stand GoJets.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Well.
I hope all you gheyjhet fags get a$$ cancer and have to poo into bags. That way you will have your hulie treats packaged into easy to eat space bags!
Eat $hit and die!
PBR

 

[Lav Service]

Deleted.... I just can't stand GoJets.

And they know it. Sure they're pretty brave here, but just try and see one in the terminal in ORD. They look like frightened zebras drinking from an alligator hole. I saw a crew get thrown out of the crew room a while back......despite what others may say, thank you to the Mesa guys who told them to get the F#CK out.

 

[613ka]

even with a peice of ******************** contract and piece of ******************** company... how has the promised growth been over there. Last I saw, you are still flying the same routes with the same airplanes. Nothing new has come of your stupid company and that is the way it will most likely stay. Suckers

 

[MINIME]

At this point in the regional industry, none should be even thinking about joining a Hulas owned or Ornstein ran airline, PERIOD!! GoJet and Freedom were and are cancers to society. To all the TSA and Mesa guys and gals, get the hell out as soon as you can. Hell...even if it is a lateral move!

To all the new prospects, there are better options out there than these airlines. To the Gojet people, I really don't know what to tell you that I haven't already. You screwed alot of people in your blind, selfserving search for self improvement.

 

[Allen1]

hahahahaha....didn't you guys see this coming when you started. I seem to remember Trans States MEC trying to negotiate a payraise when you guys started flying for less than them so they couldn't get anything.

Because of the creation of G0Jets, pilots at TSA were furloughed. Myself and many friends had to give up seniority and go elsewhere to find a QOL. I hope you get nothing.

Well because you TSA guys had ********************ty pay and contracts along with other regionals a bunch of ACA guys got layed off. Whats the difference? You're no better.

 

[siucavflight]

Mesa sucks!

 

[great cornholio]

Are Gojets Cass? What does the pilots Badge Say, "Gojets"? Also, If they are scabs, is there a list floating around somewhere with names on it?

They are CASS. The background is all white. In blue letters it says "Go Jet" in the top right corner. Under the employee pic is "CREW" in bright red. The expiration date is also in bright red. Most of these guys try to skirt around the issue, by saying they fly for "Trans States Holdings" or "United Express"

Almost forgot. A few years ago a list was floating around with their names. However that list hasn't really been updated so I haven't seen one in a while.

 

[siucavflight]

I have seen one. However I believe that if I post a link I will get banned from FI.

 

[f/o(forever)]

Well because you TSA guys had ********************ty pay and contracts along with other regionals a bunch of ACA guys got layed off. Whats the difference? You're no better.

The difference is, once again, that TSA management wanted us to fly these aircraft for a pay scale less then our contract had in it to begin with. WE SAID NO! They then started go-jet. As far as other growth that hulas negotiated with other airlines, We were never asked if we wanted that growth, we just showed up to work to fly our contract with TSA. I'm not saying I didn't like the growth. Had hulas asked us if we wanted to steel someones flying for growth I'm pretty sure most of the pilots at TSA would have said HELL NO! I know this is true for myself! So you can keep trying to justify go-jets actions by compairing them to TSA, but it's not even close!

 

[Allen1]

The difference is, once again, that TSA management wanted us to fly these aircraft for a pay scale less then our contract had in it to begin with. WE SAID NO! They then started go-jet. As far as other growth that hulas negotiated with other airlines, We were never asked if we wanted that growth, we just showed up to work to fly our contract with TSA. I'm not saying I didn't like the growth. Had hulas asked us if we wanted to steel someones flying for growth I'm pretty sure most of the pilots at TSA would have said HELL NO! I know this is true for myself! So you can keep trying to justify go-jets actions by compairing them to TSA, but it's not even close!

Seems similiar to mean united came to ACA and said we need to pay you less. Then our management comes to us and wants us to work for less than whats in out contract. We said no so the flying went to everyboday else that was willing to do it for basically nothing, but hell they all got growth. Its the same thing someone doing it cheaper than you and you don't like it. Well deal with it because all the pilots from ACA had to. So wether you want to believe it or not if its your management starting a new regional or someone that has no involvement with TSA the result is the same, lower wages and someone elses job going away.

 

[Motive Flow]

Seems similiar to mean united came to ACA and said we need to pay you less. Then our management comes to us and wants us to work for less than whats in out contract. We said no so the flying went to everyboday else that was willing to do it for basically nothing, but hell they all got growth. Its the same thing someone doing it cheaper than you and you don't like it. Well deal with it because all the pilots from ACA had to. So wether you want to believe it or not if its your management starting a new regional or someone that has no involvement with TSA the result is the same, lower wages and someone elses job going away.

Big difference. As f/o(forever) said, we came to work and flew our contract. G-Jet pilots went to work for a company set up to take TSA "future flying" (i.e. an Alter Ego Airline).

In a perfect world, United would have valued ACA and Air Wisconsin for their quality and performance. But as we all know, quality and performance are nowhere to be found at United. Not now.

Actually, in a really perfect world, all this flying would would be done by Mainline.

Good Luck to us all.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Go-jet callsign- "GAYWAY"

Quote- Zebras drinkin at the alligator hole. That there's funny , i don't care who ya are.