Gemini TA Vote

[porra]

Same here, just came from the road show, we have to take a pay cut when top management is getting a bonus.... F@@cK that, now more then ever I'm not going to change my vote. NO

 

[jercdevil]

You mean Dog and Pony show. VOTE NO

 

[FlysFred]

Which BJ are you supposed to beleive?

Remember the email BJ sent out announcing the bankruptcy? Things like "No, there's no other shoe to drop, its business as usual, and no you don't need to dust off your old resume"?

Which BJ are we to believe? These latest threats are a desparate plea for the pilots union to blink...

VOTE NO.

 

[Freightflyer1]

Yet another threat from Gemini designed to sway the vote.

Last night, prior to the beginning the last Road Show, We learned from two sources that Gemini has begun preparation for Section 1113 action in the Bankruptcy Court in the event the Tentative Agreement is not approved. Both the MEC and ALPA’s counsel were told that Gemini feels that it has no alternative but to commence the contract rejection process in light of deadlines it faces in its financing agreements. Your MEC believes that if we fail to ratify this agreement we stand to face section 1113 action in the bankruptcy court.

What's next? Kidnap our parents?

 

[cbeyw]

My vote is still no no no no.

 

[Freightflyer1]

Ditto!

 

[porra]

still no from me.

 

[dc10maniac]

LoL ... Kidnap our parents .... :laugh: ...Well, I voted NO and I wont change my mind.:uzi:

 

[GAC11Flyer]

My Vote is still NO! Does anyone have any Idea what color those retirement I.D. cards going to be? LOL.........what a joke!

 

[MD11FO]

I have it on good authority......Blue with Gold trim

 

[2LT]

Blue? With gold trim!!

Well now, that changes everything...

[On an unrelated note...] I received some more mass mail today from H & B regarding the "restructuring." In it, they outlined/revealed the salaries/costs of those involved. Obscene...

It'll be interesting to read the argument concerning an 1113c motion. I.e., how the company might justify that our present salaries are unduly burdensome; especially since they --and ALPA-- were both gloating about our apparent 3% pay raise. Hmm, perhaps the TA wasn't as great as originally advertised? Sigh...

 

[Freightflyer1]

Can you share some more info on that? I am curious what the upper level mgt. are making.

 

[2LT]

Where the money's at...

I've already thrown it away.

Perhaps somebody can correct the following...

The lawyer who undersigned the last motion was to receive 126K+ for his efforts...

Lesser educated folks --financial advisors/accountants and the like-- were to receive 44K+ a piece...

Seabury Group http://www.seaburygroup.com/index.html stands to receive about 1.3 million...

H & B to receive about 1.2 million...

Somebody who bothered to keep it please correct me. In any case, it certainly 'puts things into perspective.'

 

[RoundMotor]

The timing of preparing the 1113 action makes me think it was going to happen regardless of the vote. They also agreed not to file the motion if the TA passes. I dont they have any intention to keeping their word.

Who has blue with gold trim??

 

[jercdevil]

A judge will never rule in GAC's favor. Never happened at any carrier and it won't happen here. Tell the judge we been on a payfreeze for the last 4 years Rumor is that are trusted MEC is in line for the DO job if this go's thru !!!! Vote NO.

It's better to die on your feet,then live on your knees. Solidarity will rule.

 

[J. Basedow]

During the first Miami roadshow (goatrodeo) the MEC was asked about the DO job and he said that he has not been contacted by anyone concerning the DO job. I believe him, his integrity is important to him and he couldn't be very effective as Do if he stood up and lied at the very onset of this TA vote.
For what it is worth.

 

[MD11FO]

Gotta agree, Rumors such as who's getting what job serve no purpose. Vote on the TA itself, not some perceived rumor.Besides the idea that one persons opinion can influence a entire vote is far fetched.

 

[jercdevil]

Gotta agree, Rumors such as who's getting what job serve no purpose. Vote on the TA itself, not some perceived rumor.Besides the idea that one persons opinion can influence a entire vote is far fetched.

Scare Tactics

 

[porra]

Tomorrow is the big day.......

 

[fogrunner]

I predict 68% will vote no