Gaylord Entertainment, Nashville

[Boilermaker]

Anyone with any info on these guys? Thanks.

 

[User546]

They own half of Nashville, and they're currently hiring.

From their website:
"Gaylord Entertainment (NYSE:GET) is a leading hospitality and entertainment company based in Nashville, Tenn. which owns and operates three industry-leading brands – Gaylord Hotels, a growing number of upscale, meetings-focused resorts; ResortQuest, the nation’s largest vacation home network; and the Grand Ole Opry, the weekly showcase of country music’s finest performers for 80 consecutive years. The Company’s entertainment brands and properties include the Ryman Auditorium, General Jackson Showboat, Springhouse Links Golf Club, Wildhorse Saloon, Radisson Hotel Opryland and WSM-AM. For more information about the Company, visit www.gaylordentertainment.com."

 

[Boilermaker]

Any idea what kind of equipment and why their mins are so low?

 

[jeb]

Gaylord Entertainment

Has anybody submitted a resume and heard back from them? I understand they operate a Astra is that correct? Don't know anything about their QOL. I was called today but was out, suppose to have a call back in the morning.

 

[Lear70]

They operate a very nice Astra maintained out of Hangar 1 in BNA.

Chief Pilot is resigning from active work but will stay on in an "advisory" capacity.

They pay $65k a year for a CA. No, that's not a typo. I applied anyway just for grins and giggles to see what they'd say since I live there and worked just next door out of Hangar 2 for several years.

They've had the job up on planejobs 3 times in the last 90 days. The first two times I didn't get a response. This last time I got a response that said "Thanks for applying, your experience is impressive, but we've found a 'more suitable' candidate".

From what my sources on the field keep telling me, they want someone already typed in the aircraft, won't pay moving expenses, but can't find anyone to accept the salary who's already typed. Go figure.

Good luck!

 

[HMR]

I'm pretty familiar with Astra salaries across the country. $65K for Captain is bottom feeder Charter pay.

Brand new, PT91 PIC's should be starting ~$90K.

 

[Dinger]

90K.........you're on dope! Even if it is part 91. YOU may be making huge $, but 90k is fugn rediculous for an Astra driver.

 

[Brett Hull]

90K.........you're on dope! Even if it is part 91. YOU may be making huge $, but 90k is fugn rediculous for an Astra driver.

Yea, you should be paying them to let you fly it.

Where else, other than aviation, do you hearing people complain about the pay being too high?

We're our own worst enemies.

 

[HMR]

No dope; just had a drug test...

90K.........you're on dope! Even if it is part 91. YOU may be making huge $, but 90k is fugn rediculous for an Astra driver.

Well, I guess myself and a bunch of other Astra drivers will just have to be content with our "fugn rediculous" pay. If you want to work for crap wages (and it sounds like you do); Gaylord might be a perfect opportunity.

PS- Please read my signature line.

 

[Lear70]

Exactly right. I make 65k and get 13-14 days off a month working at my regional with pass privileges and jumpseat privileges.

Why would I give that up to make the same thing driving an Astra and now doubling my workload when I'm at work (catering, fueling, flight plans, owner shmoozing) and get probably about the same number of days off (Gaylord flies 3 or 4 days a week)??!!

If they're not paying $80 - $90k I'm not interested.

 

[User546]

What do you think the First Officers are making there??

 

[Dinger]

Gents,

I do NOT work for a crap wage, never will. I certainly do not condone low wage employment in our profession. That being said, 90k is more of a fair wage in SoCal, but we are talking TENNESSEE, aren't we? Last time I checked, wages there were more along the average rate with the rest of the nation.

Brett Hull......pay them for letting you fly....WTF?....How the heck did you get that from my post. I never said 65k was acceptable. That is too low. I do believe 90k in that area is a little unrealistic.

HMR, as I re-read my post it sounded like I was taking a shot at you. That was not my intention at all. Sorry.

 

[Brett Hull]

It was tongue-in-cheek.

There was recently a Lear 45 job posted in Nashville. The pay: $75-$95K + bonus.

 

[Dinger]

Is that truly the going rate for a 45 driver there, or is that the exception? I am on the 45 in the NW. 95k for Left seat in the 45 would be awesome, but highly unlikely. Maybe them good ol' boys in TN got a good thing going.

75k is much more in line with what I have seen.

 

[Groundpounder]

Huh huh, you said Gaylord

 

[Lear70]

What do you think the First Officers are making there??

Nice Avatar...

Gaylord doesn't have F/O's. They have a Chief Pilot, a Captain, and a Co-Captain. Both CA and Co-CA make the same thing. Chief pilot makes $85-90k.

And $55k - $65k was the going rate for a Lear CA in Nashville back when I was 7 and riding in my dad's lap on Lear check runs from time to time. That was 1978.

No way in HELL I'd take a job at a CORPORATE operation for less than $85-$90k a year in the Southeast / Midwest, closer to $100k+ on the West Coast / Northeast corridor. Wake up and smell the new millenium - it's called "inflation".

 

[G100driver]

Is that truly the going rate for a 45 driver there, or is that the exception? I am on the 45 in the NW. 95k for Left seat in the 45 would be awesome, but highly unlikely. Maybe them good ol' boys in TN got a good thing going.

HEY DING DONG put down the frigin crack pipe!!! You know that the PacNW is the place where you should be thankful for just having a job ... Not everyone "gets" to live here. Just ask the guys who run the local the FBO's.

Sorry, I could not resist.

 

[svcta]

Whaddya think a G100 co-pilot in the southeast should make? No type, or time in type.......very light flying load. thanks

 

[G100driver]

Are they going to type you? If not, well I would not expect much (crappy operation).

What type of aircraft.

Define light load. Are you on call 24/7? If so, then it is not a light load. I would not get lulled into the, "hey you are hardly ever working." When are on call you are working.

Sorry, I am not much help here.

 

[svcta]

yeah, thanks for that.

15-20 hours/mo. Typed, no on call.

 

[G100driver]

how about size of aircraft that way you do not have to be too specific.

I would go with the low end of the NBAA salary range as to give yourself something to work up towards.

 

[Dinger]

Lear70,

65k in 1978 for a Lear Captain......Balogna.

And it's not all "inflation". Cost of living, among many things, has a lot to do with the increase in salaries. Believe it or not, they are not one in the same. Wake up and read a text book.

 

[Dinger]

G100driver,

You know it my friend. The PacNW is so great, I paid people to let me fly their jets until just last year. There are some really great PFT outfits up here I am applying at. With any luck, I can sign one of those well known 3-year no-compete contracts. People say I am lowering the bar, but I am looking out for me and me only.

On a lighter note, how have things gone since you came out of the closet.....doh, you DID come OUT, didn't you? I heard they were gonna put a "special" class together for you at Falcon recurrent in TTburough. Male strippers for top graduates and all.

Got you new email addy Gstringdriverathotmale.com

Sorry, couldn't resist!

 

[Dinger]

how about size of aircraft that way you do not have to be too specific.

I would go with the low end of the NBAA salary range as to give yourself something to work up towards.

Dude, haven't you heard? Nothing less than 85k-90k brother. We all gotta stick together. I'm on my way to talk to my boss right now and tell him how it is, I suggest you do the same. Anything else and we are lowering the bar, down right complaining about high pay rates, my friend.

 

[Lear70]

Lear70,

65k in 1978 for a Lear Captain......Balogna.

And it's not all "inflation". Cost of living, among many things, has a lot to do with the increase in salaries. Believe it or not, they are not one in the same. Wake up and read a text book.

Actually, to be specific, inflation, cost of living, and the consumer pricing index are all interrelated if you want to get technical about it. And yes, 65k a year.

And, to be perfectly clear, I don't give a rat's a*s if you believe me or not. For all I give a sh*t you can go pound sand, especially if you're one of those people willing to take $50k a year for a Lear job right now when I was making that almost 10 years ago.

D*mn aviation WHORES are going to RUIN what's LEFT of this industry (i.e. good corporate jobs are about the only good thing left going).

 

[AA717driver]

I'm pretty sure Ce-500 CA's were making $50k in IND at GTE in the mid-80's. But some be200 guys were also getting $45k back then.

Face it, pilot pay has only kept pace with inflation. Whether at the airlines or corporate, we have been lowballed into just being happy to have a job...TC

 

[Charlie-Echo64D]

Lear70,
I'll be looking for an entry-level job in Nashville once I return from Iraq, I'm curious if you can share who you work for, or your opinion of the Nashville job market.

Thanks in advance!

Chris

 

[Lear70]

Unfortunately, I don't work on the field at BNA anymore, although I do get out from time to time to say Hi to some old friends.

I USED to work out of Hangar 2 flying flight instruction, then King Airs, then Lears, then I got into the 121 side and I'm trying to either move on to a major or get into a nice corporate job. Either one would be fine, I'm just tired of busting my butt 18 days away and 90 hours of flying a month for $65k a year.

There's been a LOT of positive movement in the BNA corporate scene lately. Unfortunately, Averitt has been having a very hard time and has lost a LOT of aircraft, but they're still around (although not as good to work for as they once were). Might be a good entry-level job until you can network on the field and get to know some other operators.

Pharmaceutical company opened a local flight department flight a Lear 45, but I hear it's a VERY good operation so don't expect much movement. Also a CL-604 but I can't get much info on the operator. Alan Jackson's flight department runs a Lear and a Falcon 20 (don't know if they've done the fan conversion or not) - there's rumors of a little movement there but nothing solid.

Gaylord of course, and that's about all I've heard lately. Rogers construction is on the field, as is O'Charley's and a few others. Rumor is the 2nd Captain on the Gaylord aircraft went to Cracker Barrel's flight department out of Lebanon for more pay, better QOL. Most of those don't pay what I'd have to get to leave here so I haven't kept up with it as much as I probably should.

Wish I could give you a little more insight, but it's very quiet in BNA, like everywhere else, most of the good jobs are gone by the time you hear about them unless you've made buddies with someone who works there.

Good luck!

 

[Charlie-Echo64D]

Lear 70
Thanks for the reply, I appreciate you're incite. Good luck!

 

[G100driver]

Didn't Lousiana Pacific just (2003) move their flight department down there? They operate Lear 45's.