Game Over, Gulfstream!

[ehaecker]

I don't remember about Comair, but the Colgan and Pinnacle accidents both had GIA pilots. What did both accidents have in common? A COMPLETE LACK OF BASIC PILOTING SKILLS. Just sayin'

 

[CX880]

I guess what people are trying to say is that Gulfstream give pilots that should not be near airplanes a chance to be near them, therefore when they get out in the real world airlines with no supervision. The chances are they'll they crash.

 

[The General]

Ty Webb, you are an idiot. I haven't been on this website for years, due to idiots of your kind. So, this has been a complete waste of my time. I can't help but feel sorry for you, for being as ignorant as you are.

I'm not going to be able (nor do I have the time or patience) to change your mind about GIA and our commuter "area" flying. All I can say is this, we are hard working pilots who fly glorified king airs for a ********************ty mom and pop shop operation- we dont much like the 1 to 5 new "probationary" FO's each month and wish the "acedemy" would shut down. If you've ever encountered some deuche bag who came from GIA who thinks he's hot stuff, then I appologize on behalf of the remaining few non deuche bags at the company, who have worked here for years, just trying to get by. There are TONS of ex GIA pilots out there and even more PFTers from back in the day, most former 250ers hating GIA for various reasons (could be they didn't get hired after their 250 hours at our "********************ty" "airline" because yes they suck,.. but guess what YOUR airline hired them, so what does that say about YOUR airline?) Its my own fault for staying there to upgrade and now being stuck there, and I blame noone but myself, but its still 121 PIC, and almost enough to live on. If you dont agree with the turboprop 121 PIC/SIC time, then take it up with CAL. If you think previous incidents/ accidents were the fault of GIA training, you may be right and you may be wrong, it probably had to do with the person/pilot rather than 250 hours throwing gear in a BE1900. There's too much to discuss, and personally, I lack the enthusiasm to even defend this place, but i'll defend the people who work here... I dont think anyone deserves to loose their job in this industry.

 

[WayBack]

Its my own fault for staying there to upgrade and now being stuck there, and I blame noone but myself, but its still 121 PIC, and almost enough to live on. If you dont agree with the turboprop 121 PIC/SIC time, then take it up with CAL. If you think previous incidents/ accidents were the fault of GIA training, you may be right and you may be wrong, it probably had to do with the person/pilot rather than 250 hours throwing gear in a BE1900. There's too much to discuss, and personally, I lack the enthusiasm to even defend this place, but i'll defend the people who work here... I dont think anyone deserves to loose their job in this industry.

Right here is the problem. You're flying PIC there, admit you can't even survive on the pay, not to mention the debt you racked up PAYING FOR YOUR JOB.
No one has sympathy for you when you're in line at the unemployment office. You did it to yourself. No pilot deserves to be put out of a job, except for GIA pilots. You suck asses messed up this industry.
But hey, you got your PIC 121 time, right? That and $.75 can buy you a cup of coffee at the 7-11.....where you will be working.
Call your girlfriend PFT128, maybe he can get you a job at AirTranny.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

All were GIA grads and the common factor is that, all of the accidents and pilots involved, happened after GIA. In every case the crews were at least three years plus, removed from GIA. They all had training at other airlines and multiple checkrides before an accident. I guess every student that has every attended Embry Riddle and crashed means that Embry is bad and it should be shut down. GIA training is not easy and i have seen many pilots come from other airlines that failed out of GIA.

Law.....of.....Primacy. The terd can be swept under the rug, but the smell will tell.
PBR

 

[CX880]

You suck asses messed up this industry.
But hey, you got your PIC 121 time, right? That and $.75 can buy you a cup of coffee at the 7-11.....where you will be working.
Call your girlfriend PFT128, maybe he can get you a job at AirTranny.

That's the guy pFt128 or something like that, that guy is a deuche. He puts up alpo avatars and threatens anyone that applies to scab central Airtran that their board checks for scabs and scaliwags and scum pilots. While he himself is a pay for trainer who paid for a position that a qualified pilot should be getting paid for. What a hypocrite. WE ARE ALPA!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

That's the guy pFt128 or something like that, that guy is a deuche. He puts up alpo avatars and threatens anyone that applies to scab central Airtran that their board checks for scabs and scaliwags and scum pilots. While he himself is a pay for trainer who paid for a position that a qualified pilot should be getting paid for. What a hypocrite. WE ARE ALPA!

Jeeze dude,
I am all about a headfull of acid for breakfast, but really, try 1/2 the dosage, you might even make sense.
PBR

 

[CX880]

Jeeze dude,
I am all about a headfull of acid for breakfast, but really, try 1/2 the dosage, you might even make sense.
PBR

You need the opposite of acid.

 

[Lynxman]

What a hypocrite. WE ARE ALPA!

Says the hypocrite that works for GJ. JK JK

 

[CX880]

Says the hypocrite that works for GJ. JK JK

Last time I checked we didn't cross any picket lines or pay for a right seat. If you think GJ pilots are A-Holes for undercutting, although we get paid more than TSA, then what else is new in this business? I'm pretty sure we're going to be screwed next.

 

[Tarzan]

Last time I checked we didn't cross any picket lines or pay for a right seat. If you think GJ pilots are A-Holes for undercutting, although we get paid more than TSA, then what else is new in this business? I'm pretty sure we're going to be screwed next.

Paid more? You guys are the bottom of the barrel for 70 seat stuff. TSA flies only 50 seaters. They're pay rates for the 70 seat equipment top yours.

I know you get off on putting flame on this board but I truly believe you taek yourself seriously from time to time.

 

[Mike man]

If every airline was audited they would all be "going concern"...I don't see any big deal here.

COUnited will keep them around...if they didn't boot them for using car parts they arn't going to boot them for any other reason.

 

[CX880]

Paid more? You guys are the bottom of the barrel for 70 seat stuff.

That's not true, check the CRJ7/9 pay rates. Maybe even the Colgan Q400s if you'd like even though they're a different market. Pay is besides the point anyways, it doesn't matter if the union gets industry leading pay at GJ. TSA unfortunately will still have a problem with the whipsaw factor. Too bad it had to be this way I guess but both unions are trying to work out the mess that's been created. Management has turned us against each other, don't give them the satisfaction.

 

[Ty Webb]

The ones that defend GIA the loudest are the ones with the most to hide.

Ty

 

[skidbuggy]

If I have some left over spaghetti sauce I'll pour it on my ramen noodles.

 

[NachoMamma]

This thread is way past awesome...

 

[s3jetman]

Law.....of.....Primacy. The terd can be swept under the rug, but the smell will tell.
PBR

Great point! BLAH!!! But primacy on airmanship would go back to the privat pilot and commercial ratting would it not? I quess the instructor that gave them the private pilot lic. be responsible. And in the law of primacy wouldnt it be the ones responsible for teaching in a new aircraft. It was not the 1900 in which these accidents happened so it would be the, primacy, of the new aircraft instuctors fault! come up with some new excuesses.

 

[ehaecker]

Great point! BLAH!!! But primacy on airmanship would go back to the privat pilot and commercial ratting would it not? I quess the instructor that gave them the private pilot lic. be responsible. And in the law of primacy wouldnt it be the ones responsible for teaching in a new aircraft. It was not the 1900 in which these accidents happened so it would be the, primacy, of the new aircraft instuctors fault! come up with some new excuesses.

What is commercial ratting? Is that like commercial fishing, but with rats? I never knew there was such an industry...

 

[Salukipilot4590]

If I have some left over spaghetti sauce I'll pour it on my ramen noodles.

Dude, that sounds like a great idea!


When I eventually get back I'll remember to bring a small can of prego with me!

 

[CRJDawg]

For the past 20 years, the worst offender in the race to the bottom, as we all know, has been Gulfstream Int'l Airlines, a ragtag B1900 operator which, instead of interviewing and hiring professional First Officers, came up instead with a novel idea- to actually charge inexperienced pilots $20,000. in exchange for the dubious privilege of playing First office for 250 hours. Truly a despicable practice.

Well, it looks like the fat lady is about to sing. GIA will no longer be the corn in Continental's poop any longer:


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., May 6, 2010 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Gulfstream International Group, Inc. ("Gulfstream") (NYSE Amex:GIA) announced today that the auditor's report received from its independent registered public accounting firm on its financial statements for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2009 contained a going concern disclosure. Gulfstream's financial statements, including the auditor's report, were included in Gulfstream's Annual Report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 15, 2010.



This announcement is required by Section 610(b) of the NYSE AMEX Company Guide, which requires a listed company that receives an audit opinion that contains a going concern disclosure to make a public announcement of such through the news media. This announcement does not represent any change or amendment to Gulfstream's financial statements or to its Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2009.

About Gulfstream International Group, Inc.

Gulfstream is a regional air carrier based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, operating for 20 years. The Company specializes in providing travelers with access to niche locations not typically covered by major carriers. Gulfstream International Airlines, Inc. operates approximately 150 scheduled flights per day, serving nine destinations in Florida, ten destinations in the Bahamas, five destinations from Cleveland under the Department of Transportation's Essential Air Service Program and charter service to Cuba and the Bahamas. For more information on the company, visit the company's website at http://www.gulfstreamair.com.

HAHAHA! Whats the matter Ty Webb? Did your check bounce? Wash out?

Keep in mind that quite a few of your senior captains came from there. Go drink more nutmilk fool!