Future of Jumpseat

[DirkkDiggler]

Tim47,

It's attitudes such as yours that cause problems in the first place. I used to fly for a 135 cargo operator that would let any 121 airline crew jumpseat with us regardless of whether they offered a reciprocal aggreement. In the long run this ended up opening a lot of reciprocal aggrements once word got out to each company's jump seat coordinator about how accomodating our company was with jumpseaters. If you go around saying, "they don't give us what we want so we won't give them what they want," all you do is foster bad relations between your company and everyone else. If you take the higher road and let everyone ride regardless of how they treat you, perhaps you will end up as a pioneer opening up other companies agreements to be as accomodating as yours. After all, that is the ultimate goal isn't it? I think they tought us all in kindergarden to treat people as we would like them to treat us. Takes time but it's a much better policy for you and everyone else in the end.

 

[gslope2004]

Jumpseat policy education.

Once the Jumpseat restrictions have been raised to what ever the new rules are, I sure hope the airlines educate all the Gate agents on who is allowed to J/S, namely that dispatchers are permitted to ACM in the cockpit just as Pilots are.

Many times I have been stopped by gates agents that said I was not allowed to J/S which makes for a frustrating situation when your trying to humble your way to the crew for permission.

Of course the priority system should be spelled out as well, It is understandable that a company pilot going to work should have a higher priority than someone just heading home. Then the senority date etc......Then I feel it should be first come first served for non company employees, pilot or dispatcher alike, but we will see what shakes out, i'll be glad for anything at this point.

As a dispatcher, I am always appreciative of this prevledge, I always ask to speak to the Head F/A and both Crew members to request a ride, Assuming I get past the Gate keepers and always always volunteer to help in any way I can, thanking them when I get to where I'm going!!!

 

[flying4food]

Where did you hear this?? I heard nothing from management reflecting this. We have always taken multiple jumpseaters. As long as we have an agreement with your company and if there's a seat in the back you're welcome. That's straight out of the FOM and I haven't gotten any blue pages (revisions) saying otherwise.

I never reveal a source, you should see it within a month or so!!!!

 

[Scube3]

I was jumpseating from Louisville one morning with NW, and there were at least three other pilots from UPS in that flight. I also heard that NW doesn't have any JS restrictions.

I heard the same about Continental and US airways but I am not sure.

I am also sure that AA and DL and UA only accept pilots as Jumpseats are on the airplane.

The rest of the other companies take multiple JS's.

Why shouldn't they??

Scube

 

[Caveman]

"It's attitudes such as yours that cause problems in the first place."

Well that didn't take long.

 

[mckpickle]

Continental will take as many Jumpseaters as they have jumpseats. So some 737's have 2 JS then they take 2. Most only take on. Continental Express (Express Jet) will take as many jumpseaters as we have room for. Pilots AND dispatchers from any FAR 121 airline. This just changed due to the kindness of our management.

On the Cargo note.........Fedex has had cockpit door installed for some time yet still does not allow offline Jumpseaters.

And SDF continues to be a problem for guys trying to JS into or out of UPS's hub.

 

[Q200_FO]

I never reveal a source, you should see it within a month or so!!!!

Whatever.

 

[Twotter76]

Just for clarification Northwest will take two per aircraft regardless of how many jumpseats there physically are on the airplane. On Airlink flights I believe they are unlimited (XJ and 9E). A quick thanks to all the NW and XJ guys who have been getting me to beautiful GFK lately - you are always welcome to cram yourself into the back of my RJ.

 

[Thedude]

Actually NWA will take multipule offline jumpseaters, and yes that means more than two. For some reason they will only take two NWA jumpseaters.

 

[NEDude]

For some reason they will only take two NWA jumpseaters.

Perhaps a limited attempt to discourage commuting among their own pilots?