Furloughs At Chautauqua?

[WhiteCloud]

Re: SKKAABBBB

Gentlemen!

Working for Repubix is basically being a scab. I won't argue
semantics, but the bottom line is this, you can make more
money at Home Depot. Have some self respect and some
pride, if any of you do ever get to a Major airline hiring board
(if there's any left) believe me, they'll remember.
We ALL will.
Be careful out there!
Stop the EROSION of our industry.

I think I just thought of a new kitbag sticker

<STOP EROSION NOW>

I'm with you in principle but the problem is that we keep talking about scumbag pilots that take these alter ego jobs but we still accept checks from the guys that hire them and create them. It's up to us, not them. The only thing that will work is to shut down flying the second an alter ego airline is started. Anything less is just pissing in the wind. Be careful out there! Stop erosion of our industry. Refuse to continue flying for companies that start up alter egos.

 

[FlyingFarmer]

Exacta-mundo!

Couldn't a' said it better myself!

 

[Guam360]

Are they SCABS? No.
Struck work is a different story.

 

[WhiteCloud]

Are they SCABS? No.
Struck work is a different story.

That's why you have to strike when an alter ego comes into play. Recent history shows no alternative to that threat to a decent wage.

 

[jobear]

Isn't Chit Taco alter ego carrier for American Connection and U.S.Airways Express and now Delta Connection. Reap What ya sow!

Flame Away
Jobear

 

[Guam360]

You agree to strike when all else fails and you have strong desire to better the conditions no matter what the outcome of the strike is....


that is it.

alter ego airlines will always be in place, do the best that you can as a group, that is the best you can do, as a group.

Lorenzo did it with New York Air... it is union busting 101

 

[skootertrash]

Are they SCABS? No.
Struck work is a different story.

Bu11Sh1t. Republic is an alter ego airline started to whipsaw CHQ. Just like Freedom was. I still carry a list of the 87 freedom pilots and I will carry a list of anyone who works for Republic.


I hung out with a buddy from Comair the other day. As usual he was b1tching about CHQ.....until I told him the latest about what was going on with you guys. He said, "wow, guess i'll stop giving them a hard time!" Hey from a comair guy that means something.


We must be held accountable for our actions and anyone who thinks about going to Republic should be made to pay.

 

[WhiteCloud]

You agree to strike when all else fails and you have strong desire to better the conditions no matter what the outcome of the strike is....


that is it.

alter ego airlines will always be in place, do the best that you can as a group, that is the best you can do, as a group.

Lorenzo did it with New York Air... it is union busting 101

Where are you coming from? All else IS failing. Look what's happening to pilot jobs industry wide.

 

[Guam360]

calling people SCABS when no one is on strike

Solidarity

Union

I have never given a CHQ pilot a hard time, I am not one bi#ching, never have.

I support all of you. I don't support Alter ego carriers , when especially your group is trying to better yourselves and your contract!!!

It's wrong, absolutely, my uncle lost his job do to Lozenzo, He flew at Eastern. It doesn't make me an expert, or nothing near that. take it easy.

If all else fails , means after bargaining and negotiating, blah, blah.

chill out.

just stay together as a group!!!!

 

[WhiteCloud]

If all else fails , means after bargaining and negotiating, blah, blah.

OK, I understand what you mean. The thing is that the alter ego airline thing is underhanded and unethical in my opinion. Basically it's threatening to kill of your own company to keep from paying decent wages to the employees. How do you negotiate with people like that? You can't. You need to hit them with a big hammer to get them to listen. Anything less is not working. I'm all for negotiation but, with the delaying tacktics and unreasonable contract proposals that they pull all this bargaining and negotiation serve to do buy them more time to kill you off. Walking THE SECOND and alter ego carrier shows up on the scene is the only way. Recent history shows that negotiation and bargaining is a waste of time.

 

[embdrvr]

Just a reminder.
Please don't confuse embraerdriver with me.
Different person.

 

[kepjet]

jobear,

Chautauqua is no more an alter ego carrier for these companies than say Skyway is for Midwest Express. That is your airline, isn't it?

It's ironic that before all this furlough bullsh!t started that at least 11 of your fellow co-workers are/were trying to get on at CHQ. They want to improve their lives, I guess. Or maybe they see the writing on the wall in MKE!

Keep the blue side up!

 

[Networ-King]

Re: SKKAABBBB

Gentlemen!

Working for Repubix is basically being a scab. I won't argue
semantics, but the bottom line is this, you can make more
money at Home Depot. Have some self respect and some
pride, if any of you do ever get to a Major airline hiring board
(if there's any left) believe me, they'll remember.
We ALL will.
Be careful out there!
Stop the EROSION of our industry.

I think I just thought of a new kitbag sticker

<STOP EROSION NOW>

I hate to tell you this, but I checked with DALPA on this one and they gave their blessings on working for them. Not saying that IM going to, but there might be others that are desparate enough to do it. Whether you agree with me or not, this is not struck work and you would not be a scab if you worked for Republic. Erosion of the industry? Absolutely, I'll agree with you 100%, but would I consider a Republic pilot a scab....... nope. JMHO............................... nothing else.

 

[Networ-King]

Kinairer,

What the hell are you talking about? Please enlighten me with your words of wisdom and explain your post. I'm quite interested on what you mean. Matter of time? It is or it isn't....... not .... its not, but it will........ HUH? The floor is yours............................

 

[Networ-King]

Kingairer,

Dude........ you have no idea what your talking about. Show me where it says that CHQ own SDF-DCA. Tomorrow, US Air can put a PDT jet on that route, just like Delta did with Comair, ASA, Skywest and CHit Taco. Routes have been taken over back and forth and guess what, its not struck work. NON of them are scabs. Im sorry to tell you this, but there are legal loops that have to be jumped through before any pilot group can strike. It could take a while, before CHQ could strike, and by then the routes will be mishmashed between all the other companies that fly for US Air, Delta, or whomever. Look, Im not trying to be rude here, if I am? I apologize, but by looking at your profile?????? From what experience do you come to these conclusions with? It doesn't even look like you've been half way around the block yet and your calling people scabs? I really don't think you know how powerful that word is in this industry and when you use it, you better know what the hell your talking about or you could find yourself in a world of hurt. Again JMHO......

Just to give you an idea of a scab.......

If CHQ goes on strike and they park their planes, if there are any pilots (other then management) that fly CHQ planes on their routes..... well that pilot would be considered a scab. Whether its a newbie or a CHQ pilot, it doesn't matter, they are still considered to be a scab. At an alter ego career, those pilots would be considered low lifes, not scabs. Big difference, eventhough they would be treated the same.