Fun in a WMU C-172

[Spoolingbyu]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJL7bHBToc8&search=wmu

Here is a clip for WMU Instructors, future, past, and present, of what not to do.

Heard Fulmer yesterday on WMU company, while over BTL at FL210, he said they have are up to 18 Cirrus now and are getting 6 more over the next 2 weeks.

With all the glass in those Cirrus, WMU grads should be able to go directly to a RJ with 250 hours of SR-22 Glass Cockpit PIC time......

Anyway, I digress, I wonder who will be the one to create a Fun in a WMU SR-22 video. Something for the Rob & Tom show to go crazy over I bet.

I smell a Read & Initial...

 

[Learsforsale]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJL7bHBToc8&search=wmu

Here is a clip for WMU Instructors, future, past, and present, of what not to do.

Heard Fulmer yesterday on WMU company, while over BTL at FL210, he said they have are up to 18 Cirrus now and are getting 6 more over the next 2 weeks.

With all the glass in those Cirrus, WMU grads should be able to go directly to a RJ with 250 hours of SR-22 Glass Cockpit PIC time......

Anyway, I digress, I wonder who will be the one to create a Fun in a WMU SR-22 video. Something for the Rob & Tom show to go crazy over I bet.

I smell a Read & Initial...

At least they are not from Riddle...

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

Nothing wrong with the first part of the video over the grass strip. He's just getting two maneuvers down in one... soft field TO and chandelles!

Wish I had videos of the fun I had in the Mooneys when they had them. The low passes and zoom climbs are much more fun at 180kts.

Of course I didn't do that right over BTL in the middle of the day like two brilliant instructors did once. I picked more discrete places

 

[IP076]

At least they are not from Riddle...

Wow...that was some constructive off-topic input....like it matters...

Pretty cool video...wonder what the school would say about that one?

 

[CrewDawg]

Send it to Grossman see what he says.

 

[wmuflyguy]

It would be fun to watch Rob and Tom's response.

With all the glass in those Cirrus, WMU grads should be able to go directly to a RJ with 250 hours of SR-22 Glass Cockpit PIC time......

I hope they are not using that as a selling point. They jsut bought a RJ FTD to. They had called some former graduates to go test fly the ftd at the factory.

How much they charge for the Cirrus?

 

[Lazy8]

It's always reassuring to see instructors having total disregard for someone else's six-digit aircraft. If you want to do aerobatics then do it in aerobatic aircraft.

g

 

[IFollowRoads]

"VIDEO REMOVED BY THE USER"

smart move.

 

[wmuflyguy]

"VIDEO REMOVED BY THE USER"

smart move.

That sucks. I liked the video.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Both the Cirrus and 172 are $120/hr now. Double what I paid as a student 7 years ago... wish my pay would make that kind of jump to match.

 

[5ontheglide]

Hey with the opportunity to break into this lucrative field? Are you kidding me - it's a steal at $120 an hour! Sign me up KE!

 

[wmudriver]

what exactly did the video consist of?

 

[SPilot]

what exactly did the video consist of?

Just some low altitude flying and aerobatic manouvers. Nothing that hasnt been done before.

 

[wmudriver]

Plainwell 5 Departure?

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

Both the Cirrus and 172 are $120/hr now. Double what I paid as a student 7 years ago... wish my pay would make that kind of jump to match.

Yeah, they had guaranteed that the Cirrus wouldnt cost more than the Cessna to operate, so when they realized it would work at 93$ an hour, they raised the Cessna price.

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJL7bHBToc8&search=wmu

Here is a clip for WMU Instructors, future, past, and present, of what not to do.

Heard Fulmer yesterday on WMU company, while over BTL at FL210, he said they have are up to 18 Cirrus now and are getting 6 more over the next 2 weeks.

With all the glass in those Cirrus, WMU grads should be able to go directly to a RJ with 250 hours of SR-22 Glass Cockpit PIC time......

Anyway, I digress, I wonder who will be the one to create a Fun in a WMU SR-22 video. Something for the Rob & Tom show to go crazy over I bet.

I smell a Read & Initial...

Unfortunately, only 2 are 22's, the others are 20's. And there are no solos allowed in the 22.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

It always amazed me how much they talked up how great the training was there yet how little they trusted the students. To say nothing of how little trust was/is shown in the instructors.

 

[Metro752]

WMU is cool, they have good parties, and good looking girls.

 

[FlyingFerris]

My favorite part how how WMU upper staff has decided to totally be the whores of Cirrus. Instead of coming up with our own sylabus and other training methods we're using the ones Cirrus stole from UND, and using the training methods Cirrus wants us to use. Now we do all "scenario based training," so I'm trying to figure out how 8's on pylons will fit into a scenario.

"You were hired to annoy someone elses neighbor. He has requested you fly an 8 like pattern accross his neighbors two house, but vary the altitude so it's all that more annoying."

On top of that we now rape students for a 15-20 hour "Cirrus transition" before they can start into actual 141 lessons. So since all 20 lessons are dual thats $163 an hour plus a $10 fuel surcharge. After the $3460 raping of the student they now can begin lessons. Glass is easier to use, just because you had a hard time "getting it" doesn't mean the generation that started with Nintendo will have just as much trouble as you guys did.

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

My favorite part how how WMU upper staff has decided to totally be the whores of Cirrus. Instead of coming up with our own sylabus and other training methods we're using the ones Cirrus stole from UND, and using the training methods Cirrus wants us to use. Now we do all "scenario based training," so I'm trying to figure out how 8's on pylons will fit into a scenario.

"You were hired to annoy someone elses neighbor. He has requested you fly an 8 like pattern accross his neighbors two house, but vary the altitude so it's all that more annoying."

On top of that we now rape students for a 15-20 hour "Cirrus transition" before they can start into actual 141 lessons. So since all 20 lessons are dual thats $163 an hour plus a $10 fuel surcharge. After the $3460 raping of the student they now can begin lessons. Glass is easier to use, just because you had a hard time "getting it" doesn't mean the generation that started with Nintendo will have just as much trouble as you guys did.

I'd heard it was only 10 hours. It makes sense to me. Its a much more advanced aircraft than the Cessna, and I doubt insurance would like it if stuents just felw them straight off.

 

[wmudriver]

The current WMU cirriculum is pretty goofy. They tried to teach the same way they tought the British, Emrites, Irish and Dutch students. I hope for the students the whole cirriculum gets re-written as the Cirrus takes over the fleet.

The Cirrus stuff will be interesting to see how it works out for WMU. Hopefully it will be to the advantage of the students to operate these. They are a fun/easy aircraft to fly.

Did they sell the Extras yet or is it still being debated? Those things were a blast.

Go WMU, Waldo Pitcher Nites and WMU/CMU tailgates!

 

[wmuflyguy]

The current WMU cirriculum is pretty goofy. They tried to teach the same way they tought the British, Emrites, Irish and Dutch students. I hope for the students the whole cirriculum gets re-written as the Cirrus takes over the fleet.

The Cirrus stuff will be interesting to see how it works out for WMU. Hopefully it will be to the advantage of the students to operate these. They are a fun/easy aircraft to fly.

Did they sell the Extras yet or is it still being debated? Those things were a blast.

Go WMU, Waldo Pitcher Nites and WMU/CMU tailgates!

They are still there, but sounds like they are gone as soon as they can find something cheaper to repalce them.

Heard they were playing this video on the computers at dispatch from an instructor friend. I'm sure the rob and tom show got to see it.

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

I've heard they decided to keep them for a year, then re-evaluate them.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I've heard they decided to keep them for a year, then re-evaluate them.

good, those were fun flights.