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Spoolingbyu said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iJL7bHBToc8&search=wmu

Here is a clip for WMU Instructors, future, past, and present, of what not to do.

Heard Fulmer yesterday on WMU company, while over BTL at FL210, he said they have are up to 18 Cirrus now and are getting 6 more over the next 2 weeks.

With all the glass in those Cirrus, WMU grads should be able to go directly to a RJ with 250 hours of SR-22 Glass Cockpit PIC time......

Anyway, I digress, I wonder who will be the one to create a Fun in a WMU SR-22 video. Something for the Rob & Tom show to go crazy over I bet.

I smell a Read & Initial...

Unfortunately, only 2 are 22's, the others are 20's. And there are no solos allowed in the 22.
 
It always amazed me how much they talked up how great the training was there yet how little they trusted the students. To say nothing of how little trust was/is shown in the instructors.
 
My favorite part how how WMU upper staff has decided to totally be the whores of Cirrus. Instead of coming up with our own sylabus and other training methods we're using the ones Cirrus stole from UND, and using the training methods Cirrus wants us to use. Now we do all "scenario based training," so I'm trying to figure out how 8's on pylons will fit into a scenario.

"You were hired to annoy someone elses neighbor. He has requested you fly an 8 like pattern accross his neighbors two house, but vary the altitude so it's all that more annoying."

On top of that we now rape students for a 15-20 hour "Cirrus transition" before they can start into actual 141 lessons. So since all 20 lessons are dual thats $163 an hour plus a $10 fuel surcharge. After the $3460 raping of the student they now can begin lessons. Glass is easier to use, just because you had a hard time "getting it" doesn't mean the generation that started with Nintendo will have just as much trouble as you guys did.
 
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FlyingFerris said:
My favorite part how how WMU upper staff has decided to totally be the whores of Cirrus. Instead of coming up with our own sylabus and other training methods we're using the ones Cirrus stole from UND, and using the training methods Cirrus wants us to use. Now we do all "scenario based training," so I'm trying to figure out how 8's on pylons will fit into a scenario.

"You were hired to annoy someone elses neighbor. He has requested you fly an 8 like pattern accross his neighbors two house, but vary the altitude so it's all that more annoying."

On top of that we now rape students for a 15-20 hour "Cirrus transition" before they can start into actual 141 lessons. So since all 20 lessons are dual thats $163 an hour plus a $10 fuel surcharge. After the $3460 raping of the student they now can begin lessons. Glass is easier to use, just because you had a hard time "getting it" doesn't mean the generation that started with Nintendo will have just as much trouble as you guys did.
I'd heard it was only 10 hours. It makes sense to me. Its a much more advanced aircraft than the Cessna, and I doubt insurance would like it if stuents just felw them straight off.
 
The current WMU cirriculum is pretty goofy. They tried to teach the same way they tought the British, Emrites, Irish and Dutch students. I hope for the students the whole cirriculum gets re-written as the Cirrus takes over the fleet.

The Cirrus stuff will be interesting to see how it works out for WMU. Hopefully it will be to the advantage of the students to operate these. They are a fun/easy aircraft to fly.

Did they sell the Extras yet or is it still being debated? Those things were a blast.

Go WMU, Waldo Pitcher Nites and WMU/CMU tailgates!
 
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wmudriver said:
The current WMU cirriculum is pretty goofy. They tried to teach the same way they tought the British, Emrites, Irish and Dutch students. I hope for the students the whole cirriculum gets re-written as the Cirrus takes over the fleet.

The Cirrus stuff will be interesting to see how it works out for WMU. Hopefully it will be to the advantage of the students to operate these. They are a fun/easy aircraft to fly.

Did they sell the Extras yet or is it still being debated? Those things were a blast.

Go WMU, Waldo Pitcher Nites and WMU/CMU tailgates!

They are still there, but sounds like they are gone as soon as they can find something cheaper to repalce them.

Heard they were playing this video on the computers at dispatch from an instructor friend. I'm sure the rob and tom show got to see it.
 
WMUchickenhawk said:
I've heard they decided to keep them for a year, then re-evaluate them.

good, those were fun flights.
 

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