Frontiers a318s going to Midwest

[F/O]

I noticed on page 2 where it mentioned that Bedford will seek cost synergies. I wonder what that means.

"Cost synergies"? Hmmm....yeah, I wonder...I'm really scratching my head trying to figure that one out...

 

[inflightboi175]

I didn't accuse you this time. nice technique by the way, link to the story and a cut and paste of the story. that is the way to share a story. your high school english teacher would be proud, presumably.

I copy and pasted it using my Iphone. I did not realize some people were so analytical about english on a forum.

 

[GoodTimes]

Ask Gup Driver, he described it that way. There are a lot of new cities you guys are adding that are "out of your original model", and it will be interesting to see how you do. Best of luck!


Bye Bye--General Lee

Times do change El Jefe. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

 

[c9skytrain]

Quick, everybody stop what they are doing a look at TC, he is over in the corner jumping up and down and waving. Good, now go back to the discussion. He feels much better now, someone looked at him.

 

[N1VIBS]

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/aug2009/db20090814_542215_page_2.htm

I noticed on page 2 where it mentioned that Bedford will seek cost synergies. I wonder what that means.[/QUOTe/

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but anytime I hear a management type start using the word "synergy" I start getting worrried!!

 

[Monster Buck]

Lets see, SWA seniority number vs treated exactly like Midwest and out of business in two years with all your pilots offered new hire jobs at RAH under their contract to fly your own(old) airbuses. For NEW regional, I"M sorry I mean competitive rates. Oh yeah and a new base in the MIDWEST! Nice move FAPA, I wouldn't go to close to any of your FO's in the near future you may end up in the hospital.

 

[stratus72]

Lets see, SWA seniority number vs treated exactly like Midwest and out of business in two years with all your pilots offered new hire jobs at RAH under their contract to fly your own(old) airbuses. For NEW regional, I"M sorry I mean competitive rates. Oh yeah and a new base in the MIDWEST! Nice move FAPA, I wouldn't go to close to any of your FO's in the near future you may end up in the hospital.

Predicting the future, again? I just read the TA and there is job protection, domicile protection, fleet protection, etc... It's not fullproof, nothing is. This article is very misleading, big surprise! By the way, we are going to use 319's to serve the midwest, they're not going to midwest. Hey, I can't predict the future either. However, I seriously doubt we wll be gone in 2 years..wishfull thinking by some, I'm sure. Time will only tell if SWA was a better choice.

 

[Quiet Flight]

Any way a non-F9/RAH pilot can get a look at that TA? Curious to see what's in it.

 

[avrodriver]

Any way a non-F9/RAH pilot can get a look at that TA? Curious to see what's in it.

Wow! Really?

I mean yes we're all interested, but don't WN guys have your own TA to be worried about? Some of you appear to be obsessed!

 

[Quiet Flight]

Yeah. Really. Just curious as to what made that deal better than what SWAPA offered FAPA. Never hurts to be informed in any business.

 

[SWA/FO]

Time will only tell if SWA was a better choice.

I'll save you the time... BIG MISTAKE!

 

[climb2slow]

Yeah. Really. Just curious as to what made that deal better than what SWAPA offered FAPA. Never hurts to be informed in any business.

It is posted in its entirety on the FAPA site. Just use your login and password and read to your hearts content! Oh wait...never mind....you work for the pilot group that is positive we made a huge mistake. I think we will just let the details be public when it happens.

 

[jetupset]

Will you help us or should we just fade away silently?

YX pilots blaming management will have no effect on our situation. Management is making a concerted effort to eradicate every one of us.

Republic Pilots: I've read many posts that state "we're just doing our job," "it's not our fault, we feel bad for the YX guys but there is nothing we can do about it." A comparison that I would draw would be the many war atrocities which have occurred throughout history where the offending parties who committed horrible crimes stated, "it's not our fault, we were following orders." Granted, what's being done to the YX pilots is not nearly as egregious as my example, however, to us this is a life altering experience. I'm also reading posts regarding Republic contract negotiations which state "we have to get our pay up to industry standards for the good of the profession". You came into MKE, under cut our rates until all the YX Pilots are gone AND NOW YOU WANT A PAY RAISE? WHAT ABOUT US! I don't mean to be inflammatory but actions speak louder than words.

F9 Pilots: You were recently on the bubble concerned about your future. You now have a new lease on life. F9 will be flying YX flights under some bogus code share agreement, further ensuring the end of our careers.

We need a grass roots effort from both Republic and Frontier line pilots. WILL YOU HELP?

 

[jetupset]

Will you help us or should we just fade away silently?

YX pilots blaming management will have no effect on our situation. Management is making a concerted effort to eradicate every one of us.

Republic Pilots: I've read many posts that state "we're just doing our job," "it's not our fault, we feel bad for the YX guys but there is nothing we can do about it." A comparison that I would draw would be the many war atrocities which have occurred throughout history where the offending parties who committed horrible crimes stated, "it's not our fault, we were following orders." Granted, what's being done to the YX pilots is not nearly as egregious as my example, however, to us this is a life altering experience. I'm also reading posts regarding Republic contract negotiations which state "we have to get our pay up to industry standards for the good of the profession". You came into MKE, under cut our rates until all the YX Pilots are gone AND NOW YOU WANT A PAY RAISE? WHAT ABOUT US! I don't mean to be inflammatory but actions speak louder than words.

F9 Pilots: You were recently on the bubble concerned about your future. You now have a new lease on life. F9 will be flying YX flights under some bogus code share agreement, further ensuring the end of our careers.

We need a grass roots effort from both Republic and Frontier line pilots. WILL YOU HELP?

 

[climb2slow]

Will you help us or should we just fade away silently?

YX pilots blaming management will have no effect on our situation. Management is making a concerted effort to eradicate every one of us.

Republic Pilots: I've read many posts that state "we're just doing our job," "it's not our fault, we feel bad for the YX guys but there is nothing we can do about it." A comparison that I would draw would be the many war atrocities which have occurred throughout history where the offending parties who committed horrible crimes stated, "it's not our fault, we were following orders." Granted, what's being done to the YX pilots is not nearly as egregious as my example, however, to us this is a life altering experience. I'm also reading posts regarding Republic contract negotiations which state "we have to get our pay up to industry standards for the good of the profession". You came into MKE, under cut our rates until all the YX Pilots are gone AND NOW YOU WANT A PAY RAISE? WHAT ABOUT US! I don't mean to be inflammatory but actions speak louder than words.

F9 Pilots: You were recently on the bubble concerned about your future. You now have a new lease on life. F9 will be flying YX flights under some bogus code share agreement, further ensuring the end of our careers.

We need a grass roots effort from both Republic and Frontier line pilots. WILL YOU HELP?

This is an issue that I feel strongly about. I will be pushing our leadership to work through some sort of protection or SLI that includes the Midwest guys. I am not sure how much control we will have since they are gone already...but I certainly would push for some sort of language that says for every F9 plane that flys a Midwest route, X number of Midwest pilots get recalled and trained. Or at the very least a SLI that includes them as part of the negoatiated multi-company list.