Frontier Jets going to MKE

[GuppyWN]

Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 1:23pm MDT


Report: Frontier jets will fly out of Milwaukee


Denver Business Journal

Five of Frontier Airlines’ jets will fly out of Milwaukee starting in November, and five smaller jets now used by Milwaukee-based Midwest Airlines will be moved to Denver International Airport, according to a news report.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported online Tuesday that the move is part of Republic Airways Holdings Inc.’s efforts to more efficiently operate Frontier and Midwest aircraft.
Indianapolis-based Republic has already acquired Midwest and plans to absorb Denver-based Frontier in early October as part of a plan to bring Frontier out of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
Republic has told its employees that five 136-seat Frontier Airbus A319 aircraft now based in Denver will start flying in and out of Milwaukee in early November and will be staffed by Frontier flight crews, the Journal Sentinel’s JSOnline reported.
At the same time, five 94- and 99-seat Embraer E190 jets that now carry the Midwest name will operate out of DIA.
The shift is under the umbrella of a code-sharing agreement already entered into by Frontier and Midwest. The agreement allows Frontier to sell tickets on Midwest under a Frontier code and expand its portfolio of destinations to include those flown to by Midwest. Most of those new destinations will be in the Midwestern United States and in Canada.
Republic has been laying off Midwest flight crews, JSOnline said.



denvernews@bizjournals.com

This is 10% of the fleet. Is MKE going to be a base or will all trips just pass through MKE?

Not flaming, just curious what you guys think about this and how this is going to play out.

Gup

 

[Indy319FA]

DEN 190 base is opening in November if they can get enough qualified crews to accept a Nov 1 bid to go there. Wouldn't be surprised to see a F9 base in MKE, but no announcements so far.

 

[FlyinPiker]

DEN 190 base is opening in November if they can get enough qualified crews to accept a Nov 1 bid to go there. Wouldn't be surprised to see a F9 base in MKE, but no announcements so far.

Did they ever announce how many of these 190's are coming, as well as when and where from?

 

[StaySeated]

This is 10% of the fleet. Is MKE going to be a base or will all trips just pass through MKE?

Not flaming, just curious what you guys think about this and how this is going to play out.

Gup

Sup Gup,

I believe the best way to describe the pilot group's mood is "cautiously optimistic".

We have all been around long enough to understand that as soon as you expect something to happen or want something to happen, it usually ends up failing miserably or just blowing up in your face.

No one has any idea how this is going to play out considering there will most likely be some sort of SLI battle in the near future.

 

[Noserider76]

Sup Gup,

I believe the best way to describe the pilot group's mood is "cautiously optimistic".

Depends on which pilot group you were talking about I guess. How does the Midwest pilot group (or what's left of it) feel about Frontier people coming in and doing their flying?

 

[jravi8tor]

Depends on which pilot group you were talking about I guess. How does the Midwest pilot group (or what's left of it) feel about Frontier people coming in and doing their flying?

Are you serious!!!! Does that question really need to be asked. I would think it's common knowledge by now. F9 payrates comparable to ours or maybe a few dollars more an hour and by years end all of us are on the street kicking cans!

Its a very sad if you ask any YX crewmember!

 

[airlinepilot]

That is a sad situation. What is the unions stance on all this?

 

[Indy319FA]

Did they ever announce how many of these 190's are coming, as well as when and where from?

Right now 5 190s going to DEN in November in Midwest colors. We're getting 2 190s a month, and I heard the next 4 are going to Frontier. Haven't heard how they will be painted, but my guess is they will be in F9 colors. Still hearing rumors of US Airways 190s headed our way for Midwest/Frontier flying, but nothing definate from the company.

 

[samballs]

That is a sad situation. What is the unions stance on all this?

ALPA is not a union, its an association

 

[CaptSeth]

MIDEX Guys -

My heart goes out to you. I know how it feels, as do 1050 of my former colleagues and another 6000 coworkers. Until our seniority is portable (probably never) and the various factions (the "haves" mostly) recognize the strength of a national list we all are screwed.

 

[RedDogC130]

National list...dream on.....you pick the airline you want to work for and if it does not workout you try at the next one....that if called LIFE

 

[Tanker Clown]

So, who get's to fly these A319s? Midwest guys? Republic guys? Or does Frontier get a new domocile up in Wisconsin? Any final answers yet?

BTW, if there is a national seniority list, military guys should get a date of hire of when they started in the military.

 

[GuppyWN]

So, who get's to fly these A319s? Midwest guys? Republic guys? Or does Frontier get a new domocile up in Wisconsin? Any final answers yet?

BTW, if there is a national seniority list, military guys should get a date of hire of when they started in the military.

I agree completely. And civilian guys should get a date of hire of when they started taking flying lessons.

1984 baby! Gear up biatch.

Gup

 

[RedDogC130]

I guess I would be a 1999 hire....on the civilian side

 

[Tanker Clown]

Let's date it back to first flight ever. I think mine was on the original Braniff in a 72.

 

[dougdrvr]

Let's date it back to first flight ever. I think mine was on the original Braniff in a 72.

I'm ashamed to think I might have been flying it and missed the opportunity to put you out of your misery

 

[starchkr]

MKE base....well, nothing announced here. From what i can gather with talking to others is that the consensus is that if anything like a base were to happen it would probably be 6-12 months out at the earliest. I would bet that all flying for now will just go through MKE with possibly some future lines being built with one leg out of DEN then 3 days flying out of MKE with the last leg back into DEN on day 3 or 4. Just a guess, but makes sense for now.

 

[Tanker Clown]

I'm ashamed to think I might have been flying it and missed the opportunity to put you out of your misery

That's not very nice.

 

[dougdrvr]

That's not very nice.

Lighten up, Francis, you're supposed to be a clown. Smile!