Frontier files chapter 11

[Daytonaflyer]

You guys gotta pull through this. You're still my favorite airline to fly.

 

[StaySeated]

Considering the fact F9 pays my salary, they are definitely my favorite airline to fly. However, without third party financing, we are done.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Hey guys, at least your passengers like you. I've heard of folks offering to pay cash out of DEN to keep the CC companies out of the loop.

 

[On Your Six]

What's the latest with F9 beyond Chap 11? Anything new?

 

[Fubijaakr]

However, without third party financing, we are done.

Sad, but true. And no one's rushing to give you any money. Too bad. F9 was a good outfit.

 

[hockeypilot44]

If Frontier does end up going out of business, any idea how long it has left?

 

[spinproof]

With Oil @ $125 and going up it doesn't look good for anyone. I really hate to say this but congress needs to step in and approve a fuel surcharge(transportation emergency). Make everyone participate. Short term it will hold things together for awhile.
Long term....... Pray,often and long!!!!

 

[spitfire1500]

Right now anyone on the bottom half of any seniority list (and at some airlines the whole list) needs to be looking on a fallback career. If you have a degree in something outside flying I'd be printing up resumes geared to that career change now...if not I would start taking classes online and grab some student loans. I just took some online classes to get a Funeral Director/Embalmer license I had gotten 15 years ago active again. Right now a lot of families flying over the summer bought their tickets before the economy started really taking a dump and gas started going through the roof!! On my block (about 7 houses in a middle class neighborhood.. homes about 190K in SC) when we got together a few nights ago only 1 family was traveling this summer and they bought their tickets last Nov as a Christmas gift. 3 families on my street are at companies greatly downsizing and worried about even having a job. The last thing they or their companies are going to do is buy airline tickets. Come Sept at the end of summer season there will be massive furloughs everywhere.
Oil prices are not going to drop, sure the US has now cut down by about 2% what we are using...in the past there would be a drop in price, but unlike before there is now a demand in India and China that was never there before, production can't keep up with demand. The worst of it is if oil goes up the cost of everything goes up...except what you are paid. Anyone at an airline that says we have the money to ride out the storm and are in better shape than the other guys has their head stuck in the sand.
Right now my company is doing a lot of flying cargo for the military and for Boeing. But come Christmas if consumers arent buying, companies wont be shipping and we'll start getting hit with big furloughs. Sorry for the doom and gloom guys, but I feel it is best to prepare for the worst instead of sitting around expecting the best.

 

[AA717driver]

When it comes to the airline business, you can never be TOO cynical... Good luck to all! TC

 

[FBN0223]

My bet? Frontier survives. UAL stumbles system wide and out of DEN with the merger and Tilton. WN expands but doesn't shut out the home town airline being that there will be enough gaps in the WN service for F9 to do a decent business.