Frontier almost pulls a "Sully"

[ASADFW7]

Good job and a pat on the back for the pilots. Acknowledgment and a sense of accomplishment may not come from the company but a once and life time event with a great result needs to be recognized.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

What is a double spindle failure?

 

[kf4amu]

Good heavens! You really believe that don't you? Let me spell it out for you. THE PLANETS WERE ALIGNED THAT DAY! Plain and simple. Most, if not all, crews with a little experience on the 'bus would have performed similarly. Why? No IMC. No night. No winds. No crowded river.

You would have tried to make the runway and killed thousands of NYC citizens as well as all the passengers and crew.

 

[wms]

The Missouri River.

 

[GuppyWN]

What is a double spindle failure?

It's when both "spindles" that actuate the flaps snap at one time leaving flaps 40 on one side of the jet and ZERO on the other side. You can imagine.

The FO was an aerobatic hot shot that made every right move the first time. Truly amazing.

But back to the F9 dudes. Well done!

Gup

 

[xanderman]

You would have tried to make the runway and killed thousands of NYC citizens as well as all the passengers and crew.

You miss the point highspeed. Did I suggest that or is it something you read into my point because I praised the Frontier crew for getting their bird on the ground. If #1 was at flight idle what would you have done? There is reason to believe that the thrust levers never left the idle detent. If they went to toga they might have found the could've limped it to EWR. But then you seem to be so enamored with the "Sully" and can't seem to grasp that he and his crew were damn lucky. Period. Tell me how do you think the "Sully" would have done in darkness? Or IMC? What if he had a crosswind at touchdown? What if the river was crowded as it usually is? Yeah I'd say he was lucky. All too often guys with all kinds of backgrounds do amazing things in airplanes possibly saving hundreds of lives and are never recognized. Problem is it isn't as sensational... Maybe the Frontier Capt can write a book! What do ya think? Would you buy it...?

 

[samballs]

Not really all that uncommon, just uncommon in the media when the plane lands uneventfully. Delta had two dual engine bird strikes the last few years... 1 in Rome on a 767-400 (pilots on that one got the ALPA superior airmanship award 2 years ago) and 1 in Nice on a 767-300. I've been shown pictures of a American 737 that trashed both engines with birds....

Leave it to a Delta pilot to say "we do it all the time". You guys do realize that you're not the only ones who fly planes, right?

 

[snow-back]

Miracle on Red?
Ohio?
Colombia?
Tigris?
Thames?
Amazon?
It's tough to remember the names of those Missouri Rivers.

No geography majors here I guess.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Leave it to a Delta pilot to say "we do it all the time". You guys do realize that you're not the only ones who fly planes, right?

Leave it to a loser like yourself to pull that out of what he said.

Some people on this site just need to get it over with and go kick their dog.

 

[RedDogC130]

What planet are you from? Sully is a national hero and has done more for this profession than any Southwest pilot ever has. The actions he took after both engines went dead were textbook and because of this 156 people are still alive.

Read the book Fly by Wire by William Langewieche that just came out...I do not view Sully in the same way anymore....He is out for $$$ and fame....that is it in my view. Read the book...Ch 1

 

[xanderman]

I do not view Sully in the same way anymore....He is out for $$$ and fame....that is it in my view.

Ding! And no I'm not talking about your fares...

 

[kf4amu]

But then you seem to be so enamored with the "Sully" and can't seem to grasp that he and his crew were damn lucky. Period. Tell me how do you think the "Sully" would have done in darkness? Or IMC? What if he had a crosswind at touchdown? What if the river was crowded as it usually is?

I never brought up Sully. You're the enamored one. You sound like that airline captain guy on SNL that switched flights with Sully and was pissed he didn't get to crash in the Hudson.

 

[Megalops]

Funny the Boeing test pilots crashed the sim 31 consecutive times trying to recreate the double spindle failure profile in HRL. They still claim you can't fly out of a spindle failure and have nothing but priase for our guys who did it.

Just think if the news would have got ahold of that one everyone would have been talking about how SWA flies our 737's single pilot with only an F/O much like they made it sound that Sully did it all himself.

And a WEST TEXAS boy to boot.

 

[Whataburger]

And a WEST TEXAS boy to boot.

Flew with him 3 trips before I found out he was the guy who flew out of the spindle failure. I found out when someone else told me. The Captain took the plane after it happened and promptly gave it back to the FO.

 

[xanderman]

I never brought up Sully. You're the enamored one. You sound like that airline captain guy on SNL that switched flights with Sully and was pissed he didn't get to crash in the Hudson.

Might wanna look the definition of enamored...

Besides the "Sully" is part of the subject of the thread. I think maybe you need a little recap on comprehension. And for the record I loved that skit on SNL!

 

[kf4amu]

Besides the "Sully" is part of the subject of the thread.

Since when do threads on FI stay on the subject?! HA! :beer:

 

[xanderman]

Since when do threads on FI stay on the subject?! HA! :beer:

I just checked and you are correct. You did not bring up the "Sully." However the thrust of my post was that he is no more a hero than any other pilot faced with difficult and unpredictable situations. In fact the investigation may prove that more could have been done. Thus my point about getting it to EWR. If you fly the bus you'll know what I am talking about. Gotta get those thrust levers up to toga...

 

[Metrojet]

It's when both "spindles" that actuate the flaps snap at one time leaving flaps 40 on one side of the jet and ZERO on the other side. You can imagine.

The FO was an aerobatic hot shot that made every right move the first time. Truly amazing.

But back to the F9 dudes. Well done!

Gup

Gup:

Is this a splt flap failure? I had that once on the 737, where one of the inboard flap actuactor broke and the other inboard flap fully extended. My memory is fading but if I remember correctly - that on the 737 the flap indicator and protection from split flaps is only provided by the outboard flaps - you can have a major problem with the inboards and it wouldn't indicate that in the cockpit - other that the extreme roll you would experience .

If that is what your talking about in night imc with flap 40 - I am impressed.

Metrojet

 

[DCAA320]

Those F9 boys are BETTER than Sully - they kept power on the aircraft.

Gup

You are such the ********************iiiing moron

 

[weasel_lips]

I just checked and you are correct. You did not bring up the "Sully." However the thrust of my post was that he is no more a hero than any other pilot faced with difficult and unpredictable situations. In fact the investigation may prove that more could have been done. Thus my point about getting it to EWR. If you fly the bus you'll know what I am talking about. Gotta get those thrust levers up to toga...

Dude, you are such a jealous douch bag.