From the "Make sure that only he can get the job" Dept:

[FlyFlyFly]

Gulfstream 550 and Pilatus PC12 Captain (Western US) 1/24

Part 91 flight department, based in the western US, is seeking a Gulfstream 550 and Pilatus PC-12 Captain. Applicant must be current in both models with FlightSafety training in the G550 and SimCom training in the PC-12 within the last year. Competitive salary and benefits package. Please do not apply if you do not meet the qualifications.

There must be oh, maybe one candidate?

FlightSafety for the G
SimCom for the PC12

What a joke...

 

[Brett Hull]

Don't be so sure... The CP posted this on NBAA Airmail today saying he still doesn't have a candidate yet. Just trying to cut down on people sending resumes without the G type.

 

[FlyFlyFly]

Your right Brett. I got the very well written email, and I now understand, but the ad as shown is different from the email.

I believe they are going to have to settle for a GV pilot that has some PT6 time.

 

[Brett Hull]

I think you're right. I still don't understand why he has to have a G typed pilot. Are they really that much different from anything else? It seems every Gulfstream job posted wants someone already typed. I mean, I've never flown a Gulfstream, but do you pull back on the thrust levers to go up? Pull the yoke back to go fast? Turn it to the left to get right rudder; press the rudder pedals to get aileron?

What ever happened to hiring ther right person?

Sorry...rant over.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

I think you're right. I still don't understand why he has to have a G typed pilot. Are they really that much different from anything else? It seems every Gulfstream job posted wants someone already typed. I mean, I've never flown a Gulfstream, but do you pull back on the thrust levers to go up? Pull the yoke back to go fast? Turn it to the left to get right rudder; press the rudder pedals to get aileron?

What ever happened to hiring ther right person?

Sorry...rant over.

Because the type cost 40 grand.

 

[NW Flyer]

And the insurance company wants 500 hours in type...

 

[G4G5]

Their are a few G550/G5 and PC12 operators out there, more then you would think.

Their is an opeartion out of Houston that has a G550, a G5, 2 lears and 2-PC12s. Their is another one that I can't recall off the top of my head That has a G5 and a PC12, and then their is this guy, who is a developer.

From what I was told the PC12 makes a great, "ranch aircraft".

 

[NW Flyer]

If that were my position to advertise for, I would look for "Qualified and current G550 Captain, Pilatus training and experience preferred".

For an operation like that, sending a guy to Pilatus school should be a small expense, and anyone insurable in the 550 should be fine in the PC-12 after 25 hours or so in type and school.

 

[TXGold]

I've heard of an outfit in Florida with these two planes and more. Still an unusual limiting requirement.

 

[AA717driver]

Any idea WHAT part of the western U.S.? TC

 

[Dep676]

Because the type cost 40 grand.

So the plane costs how many of millions? That is like not buying floor mats for your car because they cost 50 bucks.

There is a very good flight dept by me that hires guys to fly GIV's and GV's that have no G-whiz time at all. It is more who you know there, than anything else.

As for the insurance. I can pay more or less for my car insurance depending on what deductible I have. The bigger, the less per year. You get the point. Just a scape goat or cheap skate with all these requirements.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

So the plane costs how many of millions? That is like not buying floor mats for your car because they cost 50 bucks.

There is a very good flight dept by me that hires guys to fly GIV's and GV's that have no G-whiz time at all. It is more who you know there, than anything else.

As for the insurance. I can pay more or less for my car insurance depending on what deductible I have. The bigger, the less per year. You get the point. Just a scape goat or cheap skate with all these requirements.

I'm didn't say it is right. It looks good as a manager to not have to spend the money for initial, although most reputable companies send you to recurrent when they hire you. I bet this place does in house training on the PC-12 too. Lastly, your right about the insurance. You can insure anyone in anything.

 

[heywatchthis]

Because the type cost 40 grand.

Even more reason to hire the RIGHT person.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I mean, I've never flown a Gulfstream, but do you pull back on the thrust levers to go up? Pull the yoke back to go fast? Turn it to the left to get right rudder; press the rudder pedals to get aileron?

Well Brett if I answered those questions, I'd be breaking "Gulfstream Masons" internal doctrine...

You'll just have to get a job flying one and then you'll know!

 

[wolfpackpilot]

From what I was told the PC12 makes a great, "ranch aircraft".

Yeah, too bad the sorry ass Ranch Boss makes the pilots drive 2 hours back into town so they can sleep at the Motel 8.

 

[Publishers]

The insurance on a new G is about $150k per year and they want so many hours in type. The basics are that the type rating is only part of the equation. Companies will hire non-typed if and when there are not acceptable personnel more ready to go who fit the profile they seek.
For the new 450 job we interviewed for, we took the pile of resumes and broke them into those with 450-V 550 types and ready to go, second pile was qualified GIV typed as second choice, and last pile was G rated and time but not above. If none of the above worked, we would look at who we could upgrade and pay for type.