Friday Afternoon Breaking News- Dallas

[Flopgut]

Score: Explain the reality we're faced with right now, OK. I'll tell you who the players are later.

How does AA get thown off the airport and you stay?

 

[V1Cutt]

Maybe you should read the news story instead of ass-ume. It might explain why AA would be leaving Love. This ain't a great deal for SWA (if it becomes true), it's essentially a 50/50 compromise and it's not the deal we have been pushing for. I would expect WAY more for my "bribe" money.

 

[Flopgut]

V1cutt: BS. How about the thru ticketing. You'd like to not talk about that wouldnt you. Highway robbery pal.

 

[V1Cutt]

I'd be happy to talk about it. It's what every other carrier at every other airport in the USA does. Is there something else to it?
Tough competition is the American way my friends - we've fought some tough battles to get this company where it is and this one is just the latest.
When this whole thing comes out of the wash, I'll be interested in this. But for now, ZZZZZZ

 

[Bill Nelson]

SWA is the one that is going to get screwed if the gates are limited to 20. They have 21 right now.

Best thing that will come from this is the fact that the consumer will win huge. 9 years from now, SWA will go to DFW and kick AMR's ass again and then they will cry foul that Southwest is at DFW. Go figure on that.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

V1cutt: BS. How about the thru ticketing. You'd like to not talk about that wouldnt you. Highway robbery pal.

I might be wrong but to the best of my knowledge....you were not present at the meetings that took place between the cities of Dallas and Ft. Worth on this issue. How do you know how they came to any agreements?

While SWA and AA were not a party to these discussions, they were asked to attend a few of the meetings....According to last weeks Dallas Morning News...one airline sent representatives....another did not....you guess which is which. Did they think that the discussions weren't going anywhere? Or did they think that the whole process would come to a screeching halt without their presence?

Don't worry....CAL Express will still have their gates at DAL and maintain that feed from DAL-IAH...and I guess they will also pay the same landing fees that SWA does as long as they are flying into and out of DAL.

Tejas

 

[Tejas-Jet]

V1cutt: BS. How about the thru ticketing. You'd like to not talk about that wouldnt you. Highway robbery pal.

Sorry I ignored the thru-ticketing. Actually it was our Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison who first suggested thru-ticketing as a interim while the Wright discussions took place. This suggestion came some time ago. But looking at her language, it was pretty clear where the Wright (Wrong) Amendment was going.

Highway robbery? To who? I'm quite sure the consumer is pretty happy with it...and really, thats why we're in this business, right? For the consumer.

In addition, it was our ( I'm gonna assume that you live in TX) Senator Hutchison who first approached the idea of a local solution to the Wright issue. She told the Mayors of Dallas and Ft. Worth that the repeal of the Wright Amendment was gaining momentum in Washington and that a local solution would be more acceptable to Washington. Thats how you have the local politicians coming up with this "compromise."

Still nothing on who was bribed and how much....

Tejas

 

[scoreboard]

Score: Explain the reality we're faced with right now, OK. I'll tell you who the players are later.

How does AA get thown off the airport and you stay?

There is no splainin punky.

This is a news report with rumors, no factual content, you made the contention of back room deals, you need to pony up with proof or shut up.

You'll tell us later? BS pal, you have no proof, so can it flop.

 

[Flopgut]

There is no splainin punky.

This is a news report with rumors, no factual content, you made the contention of back room deals, you need to pony up with proof or shut up.

You'll tell us later? BS pal, you have no proof, so can it flop.

OK, I'll concede. It will be hard to know "how much" [bribe assertion], the question should be how else? I should not make an accusation of a bribe, I apologize.

That does not change the nature of what we know to be true so far on this deal. The metroplex, under politcal pressure, is considering a solution that forces AA to leave the airport. That precludes a free market. I think they probably got that idea by looking at what worked in the past. There is ZERO downside to this for SWA (of course SWA would know nothing of downside) and any possible inconvenience you might have from this in the future, well, you'll just launch another web site or something. Wait how stupid of me, you'll use the same website you do now! Same campaign, SET LOVE FREE! SWA needs more gates at DAL or you airfares might go up. You'll take the remaining gates and then probably have a new terminal built for you with DFW money. Who knows, obviously, crazier things have happened.

The free market is not a winner in this. Never has been a Love Field.

 

[Flopgut]

Maybe you should read the news story instead of ass-ume. It might explain why AA would be leaving Love. This ain't a great deal for SWA (if it becomes true), it's essentially a 50/50 compromise and it's not the deal we have been pushing for. I would expect WAY more for my "bribe" money.

I read the news story. Are you sure you did? Leaked details indicate AA will be forced to leave Love. An AA spokesperson indicated they aren't aware of that possibility at all. Clearly, it's an ambush. How else would you characterize it? Tough competition? Tough competition would have been over at DFW. You don't get to make a "competition" claim by having your rival escorted from the playing field. That's true even in SWAland.

 

[Flopgut]

V1Cutt: A 50/50 deal huh? You only use 14 gates at Love. Here you go...read:


AP
Officials Near Agreement on Love Field
Friday June 9, 9:29 pm ET
By David Koenig, AP Business Writer Officials Near Deal That May Slowly End Restrictions on Long Flights at Love Field in Dallas
DALLAS (AP) -- Local officials are close to a deal that could gradually end restrictions on long flights at a scaled-down Love Field, where Southwest Airlines Co. and American Airlines are pitted in a battle for travelers.
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The mayors of Dallas and Fort Worth have agreed to seek a 9-year phase-out of restrictions on long-haul flights and allow immediate through-ticketing at Love Field, according to a Dallas official close to the negotiation.
The official, who spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because of the stakes involved between the two airlines, said the agreement would also reduce Love Field from 32 gates to 20 gates. Other details, including whether Fort Worth-based American will be asked to leave Love Field, have not been settled, the official said.
A spokesman for Dallas Mayor Laura Miller said there was no deal yet, and declined to comment further.
An American Airlines spokesman was adamant Friday that the nation's largest airline isn't interested in leaving Love Field, where it resumed flights in March to cities in Texas and Missouri.
"We cannot imagine American moving out of Love Field under any circumstances, short of the Wright Amendment remaining fully in place," said American spokesman Tim Wagner.
American would be forced to give up its best Dallas customers to Southwest if it exited Love Field, Wagner said.
Dallas-based Southwest is lobbying Congress to repeal a 1979 law, called the Wright Amendment, that limits most commercial flights from Love Field to Texas and nearby states. American, a unit of AMR Corp., and DFW Airport officials oppose repealing the law, which could result in more travelers and flights shifting to Love Field.
Miller and Fort Worth Mayor Michael Moncrief hope to complete a deal before they are scheduled to meet Wednesday at a Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport hotel.
A spokeswoman for Southwest declined to say whether Southwest would agree to the deal being negotiated by the mayors.
"It's obvious that the momentum is moving in the direction of repealing the Wright Amendment, but not a lot of light has been shed on the details, so there's a lot of conjecture swirling," said Southwest spokeswoman Ginger Hardage.
Southwest has indicated willingness to accept at least one portion of a possible deal -- a smaller Love Field.
Southwest Chief Executive Gary Kelly has said his airline would be willing to give up some of its seven unused gates at Love Field if the Wright Amendment is repealed. Love Field has 32 gates. Southwest has 14 active gates besides the seven it isn't using. American has three that it refurbished and began using in March. Continental Airlines Inc. has two, and six on the other side of the field have been idle for more than five years, since startup Legend Airlines failed.

 

[Flopgut]

Dallas reassigns aviation chief


[SIZE=+1]Official says she needs him elsewhere; others point to Love finances
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[SIZE=-1]12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, June 10, 2006

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[SIZE=-1]By KATIE FAIRBANK and EMILY RAMSHAW / The Dallas Morning News [/SIZE]

Love Field aviation director Kenneth Gwyn said Friday that he is leaving the airport to head the city's customer service division – a reassignment City Manager Mary Suhm said comes after a "good, 10-year run" with the airport.
The decision comes just days before Dallas is expected to unveil a compromise with Fort Worth on lifting the Wright amendment, which limits most commercial service from Love to a nine-state region.
Assistant Parks Director Carolyn Bray will run the Aviation Department in the interim.
Mr. Gwyn told staffers at the airport of his reassignment on Friday morning. He did not give a start date and did not return calls requesting comment.
Ms. Suhm said Friday that she asked Mr. Gwyn to take the customer-service job because it is one of her most critical posts, and because the Dallas City Council has placed such a high premium on customer service. There's no other motive, she said.
"Ken has a long history with this organization, and I need his skill set in that position," she said.
But some people close to the issue say they believe the move is occurring because of unfavorable attention about accounting problems at the airport during a bitter fight about whether to open Love Field up for additional flights. They say that news stories showing financial problems at the airport have made a touchy issue even harder to deal with.
The airport is run by the city's Aviation Department, a stand-alone business entity that has historically broken even or run surpluses.
But for fiscal year 2003 and fiscal year 2004, there was a $20 million combined shortfall. The Dallas Morning News reported in January that the Aviation Department was relying on a cash balance to meet both the shortfall and the requirements of a $59 million loan taken to build a parking garage at Love Field. The shortfall also prompted internal auditors to look into the books, and the airport's bond rating dipped.
A week after the story ran, the City Council decided to increase landing fees at the airport by 57 percent.
In February, The News reported that outside auditor KPMG was reviewing questions about balances at the Aviation Department. The results of that review should become public as part of the 2005 audit, which hasn't been completed and is more than a month late.
Another issue at the Aviation Department that garnered attention involved a $2.3 million loan made to the city's 911 fund, which was created from emergency-service fees to support the 911 phone system. That loan was made without the City Council's approval and also was the focus of an internal audit. The loan has not been approved to date.

 

[J3CubCapt]

Always staring at it, touching up your mascara.

Typical "Liberal" [SIZE=-1]rhetoric[/SIZE]. If you can't debate the facts [SIZE=-1]successfully[/SIZE], attack the other side personally.

AA Statement
Officials Near Agreement on Love Field
Friday June 9, 9:29 pm ET
"We cannot imagine American moving out of Love Field under any circumstances, short of the Wright Amendment remaining fully in place," said American spokesman Tim Wagner.
American would be forced to give up its best Dallas customers to Southwest if it exited Love Field, Wagner said.

AA only came back to Love recently, were the "Best Dallas Customers" of less importance before AA come back to Love? Seems like this Wright Fight has hightend AA's awareness of thier customers.

J3

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

V1Cutt: A 50/50 deal huh? You only use 14 gates at Love. Here you go...read:


AP
Officials Near Agreement on Love Field
Friday June 9, 9:29 pm ET
By David Koenig, AP Business Writer Officials Near Deal That May Slowly End Restrictions on Long Flights at Love Field in Dallas
DALLAS (AP) -- Local officials are close to a deal that could gradually end restrictions on long flights at a scaled-down Love Field, where Southwest Airlines Co. and American Airlines are pitted in a battle for travelers.
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The official, who spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because of the stakes involved between the two airlines, said the agreement would also reduce Love Field from 32 gates to 20 gates. Other details, including whether Fort Worth-based American will be asked to leave Love Field, have not been settled, the official said.
A spokesman for Dallas Mayor Laura Miller said there was no deal yet, and declined to comment further.
An American Airlines spokesman was adamant Friday that the nation's largest airline isn't interested in leaving Love Field, where it resumed flights in March to cities in Texas and Missouri.
"We cannot imagine American moving out of Love Field under any circumstances, short of the Wright Amendment remaining fully in place," said American spokesman Tim Wagner.
American would be forced to give up its best Dallas customers to Southwest if it exited Love Field, Wagner said.
Dallas-based Southwest is lobbying Congress to repeal a 1979 law, called the Wright Amendment, that limits most commercial flights from Love Field to Texas and nearby states. American, a unit of AMR Corp., and DFW Airport officials oppose repealing the law, which could result in more travelers and flights shifting to Love Field.
Miller and Fort Worth Mayor Michael Moncrief hope to complete a deal before they are scheduled to meet Wednesday at a Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport hotel.
A spokeswoman for Southwest declined to say whether Southwest would agree to the deal being negotiated by the mayors.
"It's obvious that the momentum is moving in the direction of repealing the Wright Amendment, but not a lot of light has been shed on the details, so there's a lot of conjecture swirling," said Southwest spokeswoman Ginger Hardage.
Southwest has indicated willingness to accept at least one portion of a possible deal -- a smaller Love Field.
Southwest Chief Executive Gary Kelly has said his airline would be willing to give up some of its seven unused gates at Love Field if the Wright Amendment is repealed. Love Field has 32 gates. Southwest has 14 active gates besides the seven it isn't using. American has three that it refurbished and began using in March. Continental Airlines Inc. has two, and six on the other side of the field have been idle for more than five years, since startup Legend Airlines failed.

AA's response:

We've seen a whirlwind of Wright-related activity during the past few
days, and it's important that you are aware of the latest news.


In the next few weeks, we expect to see some major developments in
the Wright Amendment battle, and your help will be critical. The
Mayors of Dallas and Fort Worth are in the final stages of
discussions about the Wright Amendment and we expect a possible
announcement in the next week.


In March, American agreed to participate in these discussions -
despite believing it was unnecessary to reverse sound public policy
that's served the region well for more than twenty five years. Acting
in good faith, CEO Gerard Arpey personally participated in the
process and encouraged leaders in Dallas and Fort Worth to consider
the full range of options in order to solve this debate.


For your review, we've attached several news articles summarizing
recent events. It's important to note that nothing about the expected
Wright Amendment proposal is certain, and to date, much of what is
being reported in the press is pure speculation.


American Airlines will not allow city officials to dictate our
operating decisions. We have no plans to abandon our gates at Love
Field. No one should assume we would willingly move our operation and
give up some of our best customers to Southwest.


We will keep you posted as events unfold in the days to come. We
continue to work to ensure that long-term interests of American, its
customers, its 80,000 employees and our partners in small and mid-
sized communities across the country are considered.

 

[V1Cutt]

V1Cutt: A 50/50 deal huh? You only use 14 gates at Love. Here you go...read:


Other details, including whether Fort Worth-based American will be asked to leave Love Field, have not been settled, the official said.
A spokesman for Dallas Mayor Laura Miller said there was no deal yet, and declined to comment further.
An American Airlines spokesman was adamant Friday that the nation's largest airline isn't interested in leaving Love Field, where it resumed flights in March to cities in Texas and Missouri.
"We cannot imagine American moving out of Love Field under any circumstances, short of the Wright Amendment remaining fully in place," said American spokesman Tim Wagner.

ZZZZZZZ .... wake me when something actually happens.

 

[Flopgut]

Seems to me that AA had no problem with going into Love to cut the throat of Legend. They flew the same routes and undercut Legend so they could not ever get started. They lasted about five months. Now they want a "fair solution" for the Wright Amendment. Tell us AA employees, how fair was your treatment of Legend?

I don't work for AA, but I got the gospel truth for you: it was abundantly fair! That's competition in the free market. If Legend had been properly capitalized, better managed with a better plan they would still be in business. They latched on to the most immediate ingredient in SWA success recipe and ran with it: Love Field. They HAD to know AA was going to do what they did and been ready for it with either a ton of money, or SWA's special ingredient: the political savvy to have their competition forced off the airport. After all, that is the ONLY reason SWA is around today. Braniff was going to crush them, but before they could they were forced to leave Love Field. No differently than it appears now will be done to AA.

SWA employees don't like this talk, naturally, but they refuse to look big picture. Perhaps if the industry had been deregulated differently, if a free market were a reality in the airline business, we might all be better off. There might be two or three US carriers, with multinational brands, solvent pensions care of huge revenues and an overall better standard of living for airline workers. That would be great for ALL of us. It certainly is not stretch of the imagination when you look closely at air cargo (FDX & UPS).

Incidentally, Legend was a good idea. Just went to the wrong airport. If they had gone to DFW they would have had access to more premium passengers, maybe be codesharing with, or acquired by AA. Ultimately, they had to be holding the same hand Herb was holding and they weren't

 

[Flopgut]

V1Cutt: A 50/50 deal huh? You only use 14 gates at Love. Here you go...read:


Other details, including whether Fort Worth-based American will be asked to leave Love Field, have not been settled, the official said.
A spokesman for Dallas Mayor Laura Miller said there was no deal yet, and declined to comment further.
An American Airlines spokesman was adamant Friday that the nation's largest airline isn't interested in leaving Love Field, where it resumed flights in March to cities in Texas and Missouri.
"We cannot imagine American moving out of Love Field under any circumstances, short of the Wright Amendment remaining fully in place," said American spokesman Tim Wagner.

ZZZZZZZ .... wake me when something actually happens.

The fact that this sort of deal is even being speculated reflects poorly on SWA IMHO. Figuratively speaking: a bloody glove.

 

[Flopgut]

Typical "Liberal" [SIZE=-1]rhetoric[/SIZE]. If you can't debate the facts [SIZE=-1]successfully[/SIZE], attack the other side personally.J3

Typical neo-conservative, systemite who can't discuss facts and wants to spin politics.

 

[Double Shot]

Last time I checked it was AA who put the final nail into Braniffs coffin. At least that is what history has recorded.

 

[TexaSWA]

The only way AA could be kicked out of Love is if they agreed to it (or asked for it).

Not a bad move really. That way they can abandon an unprofitable business decision and still get to point fingers.

 

[V1Cutt]

The only way AA could be kicked out of Love is if they agreed to it (or asked for it).

That's pretty much what I've been trying to tell Floppy. They can come and go as they please - just as we can come at go at DFW as we please.

"An American Airlines spokesman was adamant Friday that the nation's largest airline isn't interested in leaving Love Field"

"A bunch of knucklehead pilots on an internet message board have said that Soutwest Airlines isn't interested in going to DFW"

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Braniff was going to crush them, but before they could they were forced to leave Love Field.

Braniff ( and others) attempted to "crush" SWA long before SWA even had an airplane. Braniff ( and others) kept SWA in litigation for almost 3 years before SWA even turned a wheel.

In fact, at one point, SWA only had $180 in the bank, and not even one airplane. Why didn't the mighty Braniff take advantage of that and "crush" SWA then?

SWA started operating in June of 1971 at DAL where Braniff operated until January 1974. In those 2.5 years....why didn't the "crush" come then? Were they that incompetent that they couldn't "crush" a small 3 airplane operation? Even with Texas International and Continental also helping out?

Sheesh...

Tejas

 

[Flopgut]

Braniff ( and others) attempted to "crush" SWA long before SWA even had an airplane. Braniff ( and others) kept SWA in litigation for almost 3 years before SWA even turned a wheel.

In fact, at one point, SWA only had $180 in the bank, and not even one airplane. Why didn't the mighty Braniff take advantage of that and "crush" SWA then?

SWA started operating in June of 1971 at DAL where Braniff operated until January 1974. In those 2.5 years....why didn't the "crush" come then? Were they that incompetent that they couldn't "crush" a small 3 airplane operation? Even with Texas International and Continental also helping out?

Sheesh...

Tejas

No one had a real problem with SWA until they pulled the Love Field stunt. Braniff then decided to stay too and match SWA on every flight and crush you. Braniff was forced to leave, which is exactly what seems to be a possibility now with AA.

If Braniff had not been forced to leave Love Field...Or to be more correct...if ANY other airline had been allowed to stay at Love Field, there would be no SWA. You, along with a lot more us, would still have a good careers, just with another airline

 

[scoreboard]

If Braniff had not been forced to leave Love Field...Or to be more correct...if ANY other airline had been allowed to stay at Love Field, there would be no SWA


Bet so! Sour grapes floppy , what next, naany nanny boo boo?


You, along with a lot more us, would still have a good careers, just with another airline

I have a great career, sorry yours sucks.

 

[scoreboard]

No one had a real problem with SWA until they pulled the Love Field stunt.

Flop, you keep making this stuff up, SWA didn't start it, we fought all of it, get your facts straight mister Flop "pull the story out my arse" Gut.

 

[Flopgut]

Flop, you keep making this stuff up, SWA didn't start it, we fought all of it, get your facts straight mister Flop "pull the story out my arse" Gut.

Hey bud, we're all fighting it, OK? SWA is going to run out of this brand of "luck" someday, then others will have a real chance.

Where are all those other SWA guys that always took issue with my harsh critique of WA politics? Is this the night all the FOs go over to Benhuntn's house and paint each others toe nails?

 

[scoreboard]

Hey bud, we're all fighting it, OK? SWA is going to run out of this brand of "luck" someday, then others will have a real chance.

Where are all those other SWA guys that always took issue with my harsh critique of WA politics? Is this the night all the FOs go over to Benhuntn's house and paint each others toe nails?

To funny, must be a slow night, looks like you only got me to kick around. All for now, I'll be back when the rest of the news is out. Ciao buddy.

 

[Flopgut]

Later Score, talk to you next week or so.

 

[J3CubCapt]

Typical neo-conservative, systemite who can't discuss facts and wants to spin politics.

Damn proud of being a Conservitive! I CAN discuss facts and have. This is a "No Spin Zone"

 

[arthompson]

How do you figure SWA didn't start it? When DFW opened and all carriers were forced to move to DFW, SWA insisted that they were allowed to stay at Love. Now I agree that Wright is wrong, but not for the same reasons you guys seem too. It's wrong because Congress should never have been used by a member of the House to control something in his district that should have been handled by the CAB (for a few years after dereg they had the authority to deny routes from certain airports). Now I also believe that lifting the wright law will harm DFW, because any airline that needs better access to downtown Dallas will move to DAL. However it must also be realized that Wright is *NOT* an infringement on interstate commerce. To quote HK on the Wright Law "Sure it's a pain in the a$$, but not every pain in the A$$ is a constitutial infringement"