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IFLYASA

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So I'm going out to my plane this morning and there was this hideous monster of a walkway leading up to aircraft. After questioning the rampers who put it there, I was told it was for a new aircraft that will be coming into ATL. Obviously there are no cabin stairs, hence the reason for the walkway. The EMB-170 was mentioned. Could this be Freedom?? I can't imagine a very nice welcome in the crew lounge.
 
Freedom is ALPA now. If you need a list of the bad guys PM me. But for the most part Freedom is made up of guys and gals who had no part in what went on way back when....
 
grog_sit_reserv said:
Freedom is ALPA now. If you need a list of the bad guys PM me. But for the most part Freedom is made up of guys and gals who had no part in what went on way back when....

Freedom will have 4-6 airplanes based in ATL. Not a pilot base thought, at least for now. -bean
 
So Freedom will be parking a "C", while CHQ still goes to "B". My jumpseater from Delta the other day said that wasn't going over to well at "B".
 
I was in PHF the other day and the rampers said that freedom is doing MCO-PHF runs for for DCI. He also said that they will start replacing us on the ATL-PHF route sometime in the future.
 
Is this "monster of a walkway" the same thing we have in SLC? If it is, that is a good thing. They are easier to maneuver than a jetway. Most importantly, is the time savings. My guess is a load of Florida pax on the 700 will be off the airplane 4-5 minutes faster.

They are fixed to the ground and pivot over that point. The bridge to the airplane has about 2-3 feet of adjustability. It gets my two thumbs up. If I recall, I heard "Biscuit" mention that those were the plan for every CRJ Spot in ATL. But that was years and a owner or two ago.
 
Having a jetway to an RJ is like throwing down a red carpet to a circus side-show. The passengers aren't fooled one bit. In fact they feel insulted by the little ruse and simply pray they don't get wedged next to some smelly overweight vacuum salesman.

As for Freedom,.....you're petty angst with their pilots is pathetic. Get a life, will ya?
 
I'm not sure, but it was almost too big. It stretched out nearly to the wing of another aircraft. It did allow for a straightback to be utilized. But the other set of stairs seemed more practical.
 
Mike Boyd wrote in his weekly online column:

"Bottom line: the main pitfall for airports to avoid is building long-term facilities for short-term airliners. The "regional jet" is one such instance.
 
crashpad said:
Having a jetway to an RJ is like throwing down a red carpet to a circus side-show. The passengers aren't fooled one bit. In fact they feel insulted by the little ruse and simply pray they don't get wedged next to some smelly overweight vacuum salesman.

As for Freedom,.....you're petty angst with their pilots is pathetic. Get a life, will ya?

Red carpet shows old puke better than purple.....and vacuum salesmen take Greyhound...
 
It should keep folks from busting thier facial bones on the hard surfaces below the aircraft. This seems all too common and in some cases it is an incident or accident (depending on the condition of the 'victom') that goes on the pilots' record.
 
Jetways have been used on RJ's for some time now. The pax I have always dealt with prefer it to boarding in the weather and it makes it easier to board disabled passengers.
 
IFLYASA said:
So Freedom will be parking a "C", while CHQ still goes to "B". My jumpseater from Delta the other day said that wasn't going over to well at "B".

Why not? They aren't in their way. From what I have noticed the ERJ fits rather nicely under the wings on 757s and 767s.
 
The purpose of this board was to inform others about this business.....yet the ignorance of some on this board who continue to post is nothing short of staggering.

A350
 
whos is Freedom, I've never heard of them? is it slang for another airline?
 
crashpad said:
Having a jetway to an RJ is like throwing down a red carpet to a circus side-show. The passengers aren't fooled one bit. In fact they feel insulted by the little ruse and simply pray they don't get wedged next to some smelly overweight vacuum salesman.

As for Freedom,.....you're petty angst with their pilots is pathetic. Get a life, will ya?

I love you clowns who flew RJ's for God knows how long that finally moved on to something bigger only to come back and bash RJ's and their pilots as if they are the scum of the earth. Are you really that pathetic?
 
We parked on the B gates the last 3 days. They (Gate and ramp) seemed very pleased with our operation. Said we have been running ontime etc. Only problem they have had is with dipscratch (dispatch). Parking at B is nice however I dont think it is going to continue. 170s for Shuttle are starting there to a lot of old 732 cities in July. I would be willing to venture a guess that they will be parking at B17-20.
 
Ok to the original poster's question:
Freedom is the alter ego to Mesa...ie the lower cost option! Sorta like G0Jets is for TSA. They fly E145's in the DCI system. They started coming into ATL C concourse 5/30 or 31.
The pisser is they get the best parking spots from us ASA people who actually are domiciled there (C23 & C25) I would venture to guess this is another slap in the face from managment to remind us how "high" our cost are!
 
Sinca,

You are not correct. That is the original Freedom. The one flying for DCI now is Mesa same pilot group just Mesa cannot fly for DL because they have CRJ900s flying on their certificate. So Mesa used the Freedom cert for DCI flying. Just like Chautauqua has Shuttle America and Republic.
 
regionalcap said:
Looks like there will also be E170's in SLC in July to MZT.

uh, the 170 has been doing mzt turns for a couple months now.
 
I thought ASA was supposed to have 80% of the DCI flying in ATL. How are we able to do this when we share so much of our flying with Comair, CHQ and Freedom? And why are they in ATL? We were doing fine without them!
 
When Freedom established a domicile at MCO, the Comair station had to buy several of those gawky stairways. As someone mentioned before, If we're not using a jetway, I much prefer the SLC-type swinging ramp. They're much easier on the pax and they're covered, too.

Nothing like pulling up to, but just shy of the jetway in BOS during a downpour and boot the pax across the ramp to climb the porta-stairs to the next jetway over....or DCA for that matter, too!

I saw that Skyway even had those swing-ramps for their 328Js up in MKE!
 

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