Fractional Passengers

[dmagan]

I have a couple of questions regarding flights made by the likes of NetJets, FlightOptions, FelxJet, etc. On a typical 3 to 4 hour flight are one of the crewmembers required and/or asked to leave their seat and take care of the passengers in the back, meaning, serving them catered food or drinks? Also, are passengers aboard these flights able to smoke?

 

[vixin]

No and yes

 

[DO-82 driver]

Typically, the pax are asked if they would care for a drink once the safety briefing is over and they are also made aware of where their catering and location of soft drinks, coffee, booze, ect....

While inflight, if the opportunity arises, one of us might go back and ask if eveyone is comfortable and maybe update them on our ETA and confirm their transportation or if one of the pax comes forward to get a cup of coffee we'll ask if everything is OK. Other than that, they are on their own.

As far as smoking is concerned, YES, te pax can smoke inflight.....however, I have grounded a number of planes after the trip is done becasue of the smell in the cabin...especially with cigars. If the Company insists on me flying an additional pax leg with the cabin wreaking of smoking I will refuse to do it.....I have never had a problem do so.

 

[XTW]

No smoking on CitationShares aircraft. As for the other half of the question, Once airborne, the pax take care of themselves for catering and such. They are very self-sufficient for the most part.


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[gutshotdraw]

On a typical 3 to 4 hour flight are one of the crewmembers required and/or asked to leave their seat and take care of the passengers in the back, meaning, serving them catered food or drinks?

Absolutely. That crew member is called a galley wen......flight attendant.

 

[johnsonrod]

Better not get John Daly on one of your Netjets/Flexjet flights - he smokes like a chimney and drinks real hard. Saw it while he was flying on board a GIV to Scotland on the Golf Channel. He probably drank 10-15 beers on that flight alone. Sad............

 

[walshsfly]

Better not get John Daly on one of your Netjets/Flexjet flights - he smokes like a chimney and drinks real hard. Saw it while he was flying on board a GIV to Scotland on the Golf Channel. He probably drank 10-15 beers on that flight alone. Sad............

Oh come on now, you just wish you were back there drinking with him.

 

[vixin]

I must say that is pretty unprofessional mentioning an owners name like that. Especially in that manner. Might want to be careful what you put on this board. That could get you in a little trouble. Plus with the info you gave it wouldnt be hard to figure out who you are.

On another note. A pilot may not leave his or her station except for emergency or biological needs. Serving pax does not count and it is a FAR violation. I would never wait on a pax in the air. On the ground ask them if they need anything after that they are on there own.

 

[Willy21]

I must say that is pretty unprofessional mentioning an owners name like that. Especially in that manner. Might want to be careful what you put on this board. That could get you in a little trouble. Plus with the info you gave it wouldnt be hard to figure out who you are.

He saw it on the golf channel, what is wrong with that?

 

[DO-82 driver]

[quote=vixin;1310756]
On another note. A pilot may not leave his or her station except for emergency or biological needs. Serving pax does not count and it is a FAR violation. I would never wait on a pax in the air. On the ground ask them if they need anything after that they are on there own.[/quote]

Vixin....where did you come up with this reg? Can you please quote the exact 91 or 135 reg that states this please.

91---above FL350 one leaves, one breathes, above FL410 one is breathing all the time.

135---above FL250-- one leaves one breathes, above FL350 one is breathing all the time.

 

[400pilot]

91.105

 

[DO-82 driver]

Yup....I'll agree with you there 400.

I guess that one is right up there with the O2 reg.

"Guess I have to go in the back to take care of a physiological need....Oh, and while I'm back there I'll check on the folks."

No violation there.

 

[pilotpat]

Ahhh...the walk of shame. A physiological need. Hey, lemme get a soda while I'm walking back to the front, smiling! Nothing to see. Move along.

 

[johnsonrod]

I must say that is pretty unprofessional mentioning an owners name like that. Especially in that manner. Might want to be careful what you put on this board. That could get you in a little trouble. Plus with the info you gave it wouldnt be hard to figure out who you are.

On another note. A pilot may not leave his or her station except for emergency or biological needs. Serving pax does not count and it is a FAR violation. I would never wait on a pax in the air. On the ground ask them if they need anything after that they are on there own.

Thanks Dad. Try reading my post again. It was on the Golf Channel and probably 100,000 people watched the show. He allowed himself to be filmed. Are you gonna take the car keys away from me now?

 

[vixin]

Yup I see that I misread the post. But hand over your keys anyway. Pretty sad if only 100,00 saw it then.

 

[BigC208]

The fact that they allow smoking surprises me somewhat. Now, the Euros all smoke like chimneys but most folks in the US are used to not being able to smoke on airplanes. If I was an owner I would refuse a flight on a plane that smelled like cigarettes or cigars. Just wondering about how often you guys have smokers in the back. And If any passengers complained about smelling the habits of the previous occupant or even refusing the flight.

 

[CA1900]

The fact that they allow smoking surprises me somewhat. Now, the Euros all smoke like chimneys but most folks in the US are used to not being able to smoke on airplanes.

I've been here 6 months, and had exactly one person smoke in the plane. It's pretty uncommon.

If I was an owner I would refuse a flight on a plane that smelled like cigarettes or cigars.

As would I. And it wouldn't get that far anyway: If the plane smells like smoke, it's getting a professional cleaning before passengers get back onto it. I wouldn't bring another passenger onto a plane that smelled like that; they'd be getting another airplane while the smelly one got taken care of.

 

[Fozzy]

I get about 2-3 smokers a year. Every time I send the plane to get detailed. I may ferry it one short leg but that is it. It all depends on how it makes me feel. Smoke in the plane gives me a wicked headache and makes me a bit sick to my stomach.

Funny thing, did a 30 rev flight and the pax smoking the whole time. It sucked, but she tipped us each $50. Maybe it was guilt money. That made me feel a bit better about the impending lung cancer.

 

[cheyflyer]

What if you reside in or are flying over a state that has no smoking in the work place laws? Its not like you can go outside to avoid the second hand smoke. Seems like the PIC can make the call on that one if it affects him or the crew.

 

[Twotter76]

One of the things that you sign as a new hire is a letter stating that you understand that the owners may smoke in the airplane if they desire. I have heard stories of PICs that have politely asked the pax not to smoke, not sure how it worked out. Certainly as PIC you could TELL them not too but that probably isn't in the spirit of good customer service.