Fractional Jumpseats

[Trash8Mofo]

Just want to know if any of the fractional companies out there have any jumpseat agreemenst with any of the airlines, such as UA, NW, DL, ATA, JBL...

An Airline guy wants to know. Mucho Appreciato in advance for any non-smartass honest answer. Thanks

 

[Falcon 9]

Options has agreements with Airtran and ATA. Or atleast we used to.

 

[jumppilot03]

How do the fracs make it a recriprocal(sp) agreement?

What is the benefit to the airline employees?

 

[English]

What is the benefit to the airline employees?

I think the greatest benefit is being able to go to new and exciting places that you didn't think you'd be going to. Imagine hopping on a fractional operator's flight to Vegas and then finding out half way through the flight that the plane has been redispatched to Cleveland. Didn't think you'd be going there today, did ya?

 

[XTW]

English has it spot on. CS has jumpseat agreements with three airlines. We can offer rides on DH's from A to B. However, the DH's are often short notice and always have the possibility of being re-dispatched to a different destination mid-air. Another problem is that we don't have a published schedule, due to the nature of the business. The other point is that we always leave from an FBO, and that, in itself can present an issue getting from the terminal to the FBO. Don't get me wrong, I'd be more than happy to offer a ride to an airline crew, it just isn't the most practical way to go about it for someone that needs to be in a specific location at a certain time.



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[anon]

How would an airline guy find out if a frax flight was available?

Would the frax dispatcher be able to help? If so, do they have numbers that we could call?

Thanks.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

How would an airline guy find out if a frax flight was available?

Would the frax dispatcher be able to help? If so, do they have numbers that we could call?

Thanks.

I actually kinda thinking that I should jump ship and work for the fractional movement. I just want to know what kind of bennies there are for you fractional folks.

 

[WrknStff]

Well, instead of jump seat opportunities we do get to keep all our airline frequent flyer miles. So far for me that has been good for 3 or 4 free round trips a year. Much nicer to have an actual ticket to plan a vacation around than gambling on standby, especially if you have families.

 

[dsptchrnja]

How would an airline guy find out if a frax flight was available?

Would the frax dispatcher be able to help? If so, do they have numbers that we could call?

Thanks.

At NJA, when I first started working here it was no big deal to find a ride for any airline crew that called and asked. It didn't happen too often unless it was "Hey I'm at MCO, do you have any ferry flights out of here any time soon?" Then about 1998 or soon after it was un-written policy to not allow them to ride-along - something about the owners wishes, rights, blah, blah something or other. Eventually it became written policy, and since then even riding along on ferry legs for company employees has gotten more strict - you must accompany friends or family, dress code, etc. But, as it's been pointed out above it's not a reliable way to travel given the schedule comes out the night before and can change in a blink of an eye. I was trying to get from CMH-BOS one day this summer and mid-flight we were diverted to ACY. But, of the dozen or so times I've used NJA, this was the only time that's happened.

 

[dsptchrnja]

I actually kinda thinking that I should jump ship and work for the fractional movement. I just want to know what kind of bennies there are for you fractional folks.

Just going off the company board for bargaining employees your bennies are:
Holidays
401k (50% match)
1 day/month accrual sick days
Vacation
Life Ins.
Leave of Absence
Flex spending account
Bereavement pay
Medical/dental/vision/long term disability
You keep all your airline miles for personal travel
Per Diem

The bargaining folk will correct me if any of this is wrong.

 

[Diesel]

you want to know what the con's are. Be a pilot and work the line. Those that don't work the line have no idea.

remember the grass isnt' allways greener.

 

[bizjet737]

yeah - they all think it's fun and games on the road! last month two people rode from cmh-anc-kix-jkt-kix-anc-pbi just for the fun of it. just last week another one rode tus-ppt-elp.

 

[dsptchrnja]

Huh? You ferried to all those places one after another with company employees along for the ride?? I assume you mean PANC... but KIX, JKT, PPT -where is that?

 

[bizjet737]

guess you aren't really a dispatcher if you don't have access to those location id's!
anc - anchorage
ppt - tahiti
kix - osaka
jkt - jakarta
and yes, they were all ferries except for the ppt-elp leg which was live.

 

[Freight Dog]

Who goes from PPT to ELP?!?!?

I can see VNY, BUR, TEB, PBI... but ELP?!?!

 

[psysicx]

They probably could buy ELP if there using a BBJ.

 

[dsptchrnja]

guess you aren't really a dispatcher if you don't have access to those location id's!
anc - anchorage
ppt - tahiti
kix - osaka
jkt - jakarta
and yes, they were all ferries except for the ppt-elp leg which was live.

I'm not an International dispatcher and you forgot the first letter of the identifier so it's kind of tough to look it up (from home).

Not that it's important - but I'm still perplexed at your comment "yeah - they all think it's fun and games on the road! last month two people rode..." The context of this thread was jumpseating... the only people having fun and games on those flights are paying customers.

What was the date? I'd like to look it up.