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ultrarunner

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Allright, I must be missing something here....

The world-leader in the fractional business announces massive layoffs, and the furlough thread gets closed?

What's up?

We discuss this stuff all the time.

Now, I fully support the mods being able to sensor, since we're not a democracy here on FI, but geez, a little explanation would be nice!

Ultra
 
Its pretty sad move on the part of the moderator..... I dont think they ever closed a thread on the furlough of Citation Shares, Flexjet or Flight Options.

At least we know where the MOD is employed now it seems....
 
Yeah, don't dare speak of NJA furloughs or you will get banned for 7 days, unbelievable!!!!!!! How about an explanation MODS!!!!!!
 
can99 said:
Its pretty sad move on the part of the moderator..... I dont think they ever closed a thread on the furlough of Citation Shares, Flexjet or Flight Options.
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No, I don't believe they did. Nor did anyone flame guys who posted internal publications related to the furlough before it was made public. The internal communication made it fact, and posting it quelled the rumors, I don't see a problem with it. What I do see a problem with is the fact that commenting on bad news at NJA is evidently against the TOS, even though most only wished them well after the rumor was confirmed. The mods offered no such protection for the other fracs. What a load of crap. This mod should be relieved from duty, he/she obviously can not remain objective and unbiassed in his/her censorship.
 
I'm not a moderator nor do I know any of them, but this was clearly shut down due to personal attacks between two posters. I don't believe this had anything to do with the subject matter of the thread. There was a direct reference to an individual's past that crossed the line.
 
Mods: Keep an eye on the Regionals thread. The NJA furlough thread is starting to pick up some momentum.
 
"next person who posts any info on the subject will be banned for a period of at least 7 days.

Thread now closed... go do something else with your free time, like be with your wife and kids."



This was from the Mod. seems to me he/she closed it because of the subject, that is what he/she says.


J
 
jehtplane said:
"next person who posts any info on the subject will be banned for a period of at least 7 days.

Thread now closed... go do something else with your free time, like be with your wife and kids."



This was from the Mod. seems to me he/she closed it because of the subject, that is what he/she says.


J
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Thread was closed because of statements unrelated to the thread topic that were between 2 posters and a legal issue.
 
Sure has heck is! Talking about a closed thread, but NOT discussing EXACTLY why the thread was closed, and NOT mentioned the forbidden-fruit felony topic...this is great stuff....

I bet Westwind is having a great time...


Hey, is this a 'non-denial-denail'

Quick, someone call Wood-Stein
 
A rep alluding to the fact that you are wasting your time while frequenting their product is downright lunacy! To condescend and insult their clients is something all together worse!
 
For those who care:

Here is what happened. I will describe it without violating any "real" rules.

THREAD TITLE: NetJets Furloughs

NJA anounces furloughs...

Really? Awwww, snap!

Yup, furloughs...sux!

discussion...discussion...discussion...

Poster: Hey "Bill", why are you in this discussion? Didn't you climb a rope?

discussion...discussion...discussion...

"Bill": Piss off! If I ever climbed a rope it's old news. Move on...

500?!?! really? discussion...discussion...RTS sux...discussion...RTS rules...discussion...

Poster: No, I remember. In April you climbed a rope.

discussion...discussion...discussion...

Me: Did you ever climb a rope?

discussion...discussion...discussion...

MODERATOR: This thread is closed!!!! Anyone says anything you'll be banned for a week!!!! Why don't you stop visiting this site and making the owner of this site money!!!! Go home and for once pay attention to your wife and take care of your kids!!!!! By reading this you are a BAD PERSON!!!! Nothing to see here!!!! Move along!!!! I"LL BAN YOU FOR A WEEK!!!!!!! EGO EGO EGO EGO EGO



...Thread Locked...



See? Now you know...






....and scene.


Thank you...
 
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See you guys in a week!



gp
 
Glass, the thread being closed had nothing to do with NJA.

Apparently, posting FACT and PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE isnt' allowed on FI.com

What's the best way to tell the MODS to go pound sand without getting all *******************?
 
Um, yeah. It was closed for the discussion about "climbing a rope"...as I said in the above post. Did you read it? I thought it was obvious. Guess not.
 
can99 said:
but where did netjetwife go???
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Here to express my condolences to the furloughed NJ pilots. Their plight has been a focus for my family all year and will continue to be a topic of concern. I'm proud of the work NJASAP has done on their behalf, including my husband's contribution. Kudos to all involved with the Furlough Working Group and to the NJ pilotgroup that made it possible to keep their fellow pilots employed this long. Considering the strong support demonstrated in the Voluntary Measures, I fully expect to see many participants if/when NJASAP sets up a donation fund for the furloughed pilots and their families. It is that level of camaraderie/concern that justifies the time NJASAP leaders and volunteers give to the cause.

If there are any other FI members who have been furloughed, as well, since my last post my sympathy goes out to you and yours also. Tough times for sure. Hang in there everyone. NJW
 
ultrarunner said:
...Talking about a closed thread, ....
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By the time I read your posted question directed at me, the thread had been closed so I'll answer it here. "You mean NJW isn't going to support those out of work?????"

They will definitely have my moral support, but aside from the obvious my family made a sizable donation by participating in the Voluntary Measures that delayed the furlough for many months. We are discussing the payroll deduction we'll contribute when a fund is set up for those affected. I trust your sarcasm aimed at me doesn't extend to those NJ folks who, likewise, participated in the VM program and will hopefully make further donations to a good cause. I do believe that if all the NJ families who are financially able to will help out that together we can all make a big difference in the lives of the furloughed pilots/families. Thanks for giving me the opening to make a public pitch for contributions, Ultrarunner...:p
 
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Glad to help. But you don't need the public to help. It's the unions responsibility to financially back those on furlough, not the public!
 
glasspilot said:
For those who care:

Here is what happened. I will describe it without violating any "real" rules.

THREAD TITLE: NetJets Furloughs

NJA anounces furloughs...

Really? Awwww, snap!

Yup, furloughs...sux!

discussion...discussion...discussion...

Poster: Hey "Bill", why are you in this discussion? Didn't you climb a rope?

discussion...discussion...discussion...

"Bill": Piss off! If I ever climbed a rope it's old news. Move on...

500?!?! really? discussion...discussion...RTS sux...discussion...RTS rules...discussion...

Poster: No, I remember. In April you climbed a rope.

discussion...discussion...discussion...

Me: Did you ever climb a rope?

discussion...discussion...discussion...

MODERATOR: This thread is closed!!!! Anyone says anything you'll be banned for a week!!!! Why don't you stop visiting this site and making the owner of this site money!!!! Go home and for once pay attention to your wife and take care of your kids!!!!! By reading this you are a BAD PERSON!!!! Nothing to see here!!!! Move along!!!! I"LL BAN YOU FOR A WEEK!!!!!!! EGO EGO EGO EGO EGO



...Thread Locked...



See? Now you know...






....and scene.


Thank you...
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ultrarunner said:
Glad to help. But you don't need the public to help. It's the unions responsibility to financially back those on furlough, not the public!
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:confused: I couldn't agree more and if you'll notice I had only encouraged NJ folks to contribute. However, my pitch was made on a public message board, hence the phrase. :erm: Like others connected to NJASAP who follow the issues closely, I'm well aware of the Union's responses, including financial ones. Rest assured my family takes Union responsibility very seriously. I'm confident that furloughed NJ pilots will receive more help and info than any of their counterparts at the other fracs.
 
hey its news ,talk about it all you want,its a free country.
 
You all know that there is another site started a few years ago by former FI members which is great for getting away from the troll's, poser's and NJWife types.

Much more PROfessional for PILOT's looking to communicate in the WORLD wide web. More than 6000 verified pilot members and none of this moderator censorship. Mostly grownups policing themselves but occasionally it gets a bit stupid, hey it's the internet after all.

Sorry for the cryptic reference but the mod's here find it necessary to block the web address.

This will probably get me booted off here permanently too. What does that tell you??
 
A few years ago I was invited by the founders of a new forum to join them, but in deference to opinions like those posted above (even though my posting generates much more positive responses than negative) I declined. So no need to worry about your "secret". It's safe with me....:p
 
Was this about someone stealing that airplane? If its public news and knowledge, mods just can't block posts because it hits close to home, or its a buddy or something. PUBLIC BOARD+NEWS=PUBLIC NEWS.

NJW, where were you? Go back!
 

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