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regionaltard

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Any chance a Captain could end up doing a carpet dance for a FO at your airline?
 
huh??
 
caseyd said:
No. What a silly question. Why do you ask?

Because sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. I suspect that it is virtually unheard of, but I do know for a fact that there's at least one airline out there with FO ACP's. Having discovered that, I was curious to find out how common the practice is industry-wide.
 
I was the DO at Business Express back in the 90s while holding a Saab FO line in BOS. I have since seen the light and quit the airline business.
 
UPS has F/O and S/O ACP's. They even have one ACP who isn't even a pilot! One of the ACP's recently got upgraded to 727 Captain, and he has just over 1000 hrs. TOTAL FLIGHT TIME!!!!
 
FreightNazi said:
One of the ACP's recently got upgraded to 727 Captain, and he has just over 1000 hrs. TOTAL FLIGHT TIME!!!!

Did he have the seniority to upgrade?
 
FreightNazi said:
UPS has F/O and S/O ACP's. They even have one ACP who isn't even a pilot! One of the ACP's recently got upgraded to 727 Captain, and he has just over 1000 hrs. TOTAL FLIGHT TIME!!!!

Uh don't you need 1500 TT to get an ATP and thus be a captain?
 
NJA has quite a few ACP's that were FO's when they took the job. They technically are Captains when they become an ACP but it's really the wrong way to go about being a captain.
 
Pinnacle's soon to be ACP in MSP will be qualified as a line FO. Thats if he gets through training.
 
regionaltard said:
Any chance a Captain could end up doing a carpet dance for a FO at your airline?
Unheard of you say? Ask any QX DEN Captain who the ACP is. (An FO)

The SEA ACP is a desk jockey also. (As in NOT a pilot)
 
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Soo.... guess i'll be the one to ask. If an individual has a talent for management, and has aspirations to be behind a desk... what difference does it make if they're an F/O or a Captain?

The fourth stripe just means they got hired sooner. Especially after 09/11 it means very little about experience. I've flown as F/O to Captains who had 5000 hours less total time than I do.

I don't see a problem with first officers making the transition to management.
 

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