Airpiraterob
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too bad the F1 golden years of racing are gone...
1986 (turbo cars had a last hurrah before boost legistlation then extinction: limit-1500cc's with turbo), Gerhardt Berger at the Monaco Grand Prix. The team engine mechanics had his car cranked up for qualifying to some stratospheric boost levels. Boosted all the way up to 5.5 bar! (about 80 inches manifold pressure) on his 1.5 liter destroked BMW 4 cyl. the team had to use a fuel formula left over from the WW2 luftwaffe fighter engines to keep from cracking the piston tops from the pressures. the thing developed 1300 hp. no funky grooved tires, no nose in the air downforce. no special technical science crap...just a well designed car and a 1:1 power to weight ratio. pure talent is all that mattered.
nascar? the only reason its so popular now is caust its been force fed down our throats as the only thing that exists....right at the CART/IRL split too. perfect timing for bill france. the greater majority bought into it cuase thats all they saw on TV. now what do i have? nascar on espn, speed, fox, tnt believe it or not but once it was on all those channels at the same time. i couldnt take it. show me anything that involves the full capability of the car...shifting up...and down! with accelerating...BRAKING and turning left and RIGHT..all of that many many times repeated each lap.
road course racing. that is the sh!!t. I was privy to get to help out a team racing in the SCCA at lime rock park CT one summer. sat on the hill at the 1st turn...was great. watched em outbrake the other guy for the corner only to loose the position at the next corner righ tafter...but fought for it and got it back again dropping a wheel off.....this happened lap after lap...adn then a 3rd guy got into it withthem...man....last time nascar did that was when? oh yeah....they only do it twice a year!!...adn they bring in Road course experts...Robby Gordon is one! dont you forget it!
Speed touring championchip.....and the GT series...but honestly i saw better racing with the touring cars this past weekend at Laguna then anything of late. those guys are nuts. 4 wide into turn 11 (last one) at laguna??...what are they thinking. outbraking...out accelerating....etc.
rally racing is awesome in its own right. you wouldnt dare "race" against another person with passing and everything....too dangerous...heck the group B cars were outlawed cause too many people died! <with 600 hp and 0-100-0 on gravel capability no wonder> but racing the clock for thefastest overall time over the course of 3 whole days of racing....
i wont even go into discussion at length of the fabulous old Can-Am races of the 60's and 70's...McLarren, Chaparral, shadow, porsche 917/30 (1500 hp)....sigh.
racing is racing and its competition with cars...ill watch any of it...i just prefer to see more than roundy-rounds...if its nascar on one channel and a roadcourse on another.....the road course wins my viewership.
i still go to indy pole day tho. wouldnt miss that for the world...every day since 85. (since 56 for dad)
1986 (turbo cars had a last hurrah before boost legistlation then extinction: limit-1500cc's with turbo), Gerhardt Berger at the Monaco Grand Prix. The team engine mechanics had his car cranked up for qualifying to some stratospheric boost levels. Boosted all the way up to 5.5 bar! (about 80 inches manifold pressure) on his 1.5 liter destroked BMW 4 cyl. the team had to use a fuel formula left over from the WW2 luftwaffe fighter engines to keep from cracking the piston tops from the pressures. the thing developed 1300 hp. no funky grooved tires, no nose in the air downforce. no special technical science crap...just a well designed car and a 1:1 power to weight ratio. pure talent is all that mattered.
nascar? the only reason its so popular now is caust its been force fed down our throats as the only thing that exists....right at the CART/IRL split too. perfect timing for bill france. the greater majority bought into it cuase thats all they saw on TV. now what do i have? nascar on espn, speed, fox, tnt believe it or not but once it was on all those channels at the same time. i couldnt take it. show me anything that involves the full capability of the car...shifting up...and down! with accelerating...BRAKING and turning left and RIGHT..all of that many many times repeated each lap.
road course racing. that is the sh!!t. I was privy to get to help out a team racing in the SCCA at lime rock park CT one summer. sat on the hill at the 1st turn...was great. watched em outbrake the other guy for the corner only to loose the position at the next corner righ tafter...but fought for it and got it back again dropping a wheel off.....this happened lap after lap...adn then a 3rd guy got into it withthem...man....last time nascar did that was when? oh yeah....they only do it twice a year!!...adn they bring in Road course experts...Robby Gordon is one! dont you forget it!
Speed touring championchip.....and the GT series...but honestly i saw better racing with the touring cars this past weekend at Laguna then anything of late. those guys are nuts. 4 wide into turn 11 (last one) at laguna??...what are they thinking. outbraking...out accelerating....etc.
rally racing is awesome in its own right. you wouldnt dare "race" against another person with passing and everything....too dangerous...heck the group B cars were outlawed cause too many people died! <with 600 hp and 0-100-0 on gravel capability no wonder> but racing the clock for thefastest overall time over the course of 3 whole days of racing....
i wont even go into discussion at length of the fabulous old Can-Am races of the 60's and 70's...McLarren, Chaparral, shadow, porsche 917/30 (1500 hp)....sigh.
racing is racing and its competition with cars...ill watch any of it...i just prefer to see more than roundy-rounds...if its nascar on one channel and a roadcourse on another.....the road course wins my viewership.
i still go to indy pole day tho. wouldnt miss that for the world...every day since 85. (since 56 for dad)