Former Tranny bidding SW Captain prior to 2015?

[Kharma Police]

I've heard that a senior FAT pilot who has already crossed the partition is trying to bid for captain prior to 2015? His assertion is that after crossing the partition, he is no longer an AirTran pilot and therefore able to bid for a captain vacancy. Any RSWs or my Tranny people heard of this or care to comment?

 

[Dude]

Pushing a rope uphill may look fun, but...

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

I've heard that a senior FAT pilot who has already crossed the partition is trying to bid for captain prior to 2015? His assertion is that after crossing the partition, he is no longer an AirTran pilot and therefore able to bid for a captain vacancy. Any RSWs or my Tranny people heard of this or care to comment?

If you and he would read the agreement you will see that his assertion is not possible.

 

[4day]

Why do you SW guys keep referring to yourself as Fort Myers FL?

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Why do you SW guys keep referring to yourself's as Fort Myers FL?

Looks like a Tranny referred to us SW guys as RSW.

Yourself's? Really?

 

[NuGuy]

The way these things usually go is someone finds a "technical" loophole or language conflict in the contract.

It might even warrant a grievance or visit to the system board

At that point, both sides submit the negotiator's notes from both sides to establish what the actual intent of the language was. 99 times out of 100 that's the end of it.

Every once in a while, one slips through, where the notes are silent or really vague, and the board or arbitrator actually rules on the extant language.

I seem to remember the AT guys won a major arbitration about their reserve system along these lines...and it caused a major, major shift in how reserved worked for them and cost the company a bundle in pay and staffing.

Despite what people say, language and context matter...a lot.

Nu

 

[humveedriver]

Why do you SW guys keep referring to yourself as Fort Myers FL?

Nope. Yourself is singular. Keep trying!

 

[K-Mart]

Best of luck to him.

 

[charlie2]

Best of luck to him.

The nic wont survive a merger with AA.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

The language in the side letter specifically prohibits this from happening.

If some of you would spend a little more time reading the side letter, and a little less time asking the question on here then you would know the answer.

FWIW, I have found flightinfo.com to be a TERRIBLE place to get relevant info.

 

[canyonblue]

Jimmy likes Elaine.

 

[St. Nic]

The nic wont survive a merger with AA.

Common knowledge. The western division is done

 

[Noserider76]

The nic wont survive a merger with AA.

Yes, because the nic list will be stapled below the APA list.

 

[St. Nic]

Yes, because the nic list will be stapled below the APA list.

How can you staple when their is arbitration?

 

[K-Mart]

The nic wont survive a merger with AA.

Sure whatever floats your boat!

 

[SLUF4]

what is RSW? 'riginal southwest?

 

[Whataburger]

yep..

 

[Golden Falcon]

The nic wont survive a merger with AA.

Neither will USAPA....

 

[scoreboardII]

Classic, a SWA thread turning into an AA foodfight.

 

[Lear70]

I've heard that a senior FAT pilot who has already crossed the partition is trying to bid for captain prior to 2015? His assertion is that after crossing the partition, he is no longer an AirTran pilot and therefore able to bid for a captain vacancy. Any RSWs or my Tranny people heard of this or care to comment?

Yes, he did.

Yes, he is.

Yes, he and I talked about it before he went over (MCO 737 CA, I flew with him on his last trip at AAI).

As to the likelihood of his success... who knows. Stranger things have happened (Twomey-Kasher is the grievance on reserve pay that you're referring to), but I wouldn't hold my breath. The intent of the language and the actual verbiage of SL10 is pretty clear, although his position that he voted against the SLI and therefore never personally agreed to the conditions and restrictions of the AAI LOA and the SIA (and no longer being an AAI employee is no longer bound by the AAI contract language) and since he was not able to vote on SL10 he therefore can't be bound by its stipulations either is an interesting position.

Again, not a grievance I would file, but to each his own.