Forgien ownership?

[Rez O. Lewshun]

This is one reason ALPA didn't endorse Bush..... As dumb and stupid as most think ALPA is when they don't endorse a gun slinging kick as$ kinda president, there is actually a boring, logical deep seated issue undernearth.

You support the politician who supports your issue.

Get ready for Hilary in '08. I don't like her and would rather see a more qualified candidate. But......

If you support outsourcing, golden parachutes, anti-labor policies, cabatoge and foreign ownership then vote republican.

My most important issue is my family. My house note.

I discussed this with a fellow pilot and after the election I asked how he voted. He told me the abortion issue was more important than providing for his family. I don't know how to explain that to ones family when pilots around the country are getting furloughed, selling thier houses, yanking kids out of their schools, starting over at year one pay...

Just because you vote Democrate doesn't mean you are an atheist, marijuana tokin', Hollywood Lovin' pole smoker..... Brand Identity is for marketing and sales.

Too many Americans think the way to play politics is one day every four years..... You focus on the issue.....

After you get educated on the process you'll be surprised how many Repubs actually support us....

 

[PHXFLYR]

Really???? Name me one.

PHXFLYR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Really???? Name me one.

PHXFLYR

No sandbagging.... it is difficult enough as it is....

 

[FN FAL]

forgein????? I'm sure Hillary is a much better option for you in '08.....not

ja, those forgein cork sarking bastages.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

The bottom line equates to both parties being corrupt and they cater to specific special interest groups. Mafiosos, Oil Barons, Finance frauds, etc. We need a 3rd possibly a 4th party. A two party system is going to keep lagging our economy and sell out our Labor.

Giants in Superbowl XL

 

[PHXFLYR]

Ladies and gentlemen...we have a winner!! NOBODY either the Republicans or the Democrats support any of our interests. One group might empathize with our plight better than the other, but beyond that any political support we get from either bunch of bastards is minimal at best.


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

No sandbagging.... it is difficult enough as it is....

Uh-Uh,Dad .... I ain't lettin' you slide on this one. Back up your previous statement by answering my question. Name me ONE,just one Republican that supports us and our issues. You claim that there are many,so answering this question shouldn't be so hard now ,should it?


PHXFLYR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Uh-Uh,Dad .... I ain't lettin' you slide on this one. Back up your previous statement by answering my question. Name me ONE,just one Republican that supports us and our issues. You claim that there are many,so answering this question shouldn't be so hard now ,should it?


PHXFLYR

Here you go Son. You know, you can look this information up yourself.....

The first link is percentages of D to R. The second link names names.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.asp?ID=D000000117&Name=Air+Line+Pilots+Assn

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00035451&Cycle=2006

 

[Clyde]

Just see on on Fox News that the Bush Administration is trying to approve forgein ownership up to and including majority ownership.....all I have to say about that is very simply.... time for a new administration (it is the icing on the cake) IMHO what a poor president with no thought for long term goals and outcomes, he has a proven record of failure, congats Mr. Bush you have lost all of my support as well as the republican party (which is what I have been all my life)

This is not a flame, but an observation. Looking at the success (or lack thereof) in the passenger airline industry, I would say that the current domestic ownership in U.S. carriers has produced mostly bankruptcies, furloughs, and losses on the financials.

So what if a foreign party comes in here and has a large share in an airline? What if they make the airlines stronger, produce more income, and in turn start creating good jobs once again? Looking at the way things are now, I would say things could not get much worse for the PAX carriers.

It is easy to blame one person for all of the shortcomings in this industry. If you want to blame someone for the dismal state the airlines are in right now, point to the people running the airlines. My company is very successful, so should I give credit to our managers or to the Presidency?

 

[PHXFLYR]

Ok, we both disagree with eachother. Thanks for pointing out my company is tanking. I think there will be some foreign capital put into it, and I think that will help us out. We can't get credit here if we wanted to alone, so maybe someone else will help. Good. As far as legal or illegal pilots flying for us, I doubt it. You can't just walk up and get a job with a major, and that includes Southwest and Jetblue. They don't go for cheap, and no one will. Not even Virgin America. They won't recruit Mexican or Romanian pilots that are looking for work. They won't. Maybe Gulfstream Intl in FLA. We won't have Aeroflot flying 10 flights a day between LA and Las Vegas. We won't. You are dreaming. Air Canada made some money off of bailing CAL out back in the '90s, and that is exactly what other foreign airlines would be looking for---a quick buck. With airlines coming out of Chap 11, stock is generally cheaper than normal. They could pour in an investment, wait two years, and bail. It happens all of the time. TAP Air Portugal is considering buying into Varig in Brasil right now, even though they compete on Lisbon to Brasil routes. Why would TAP do that? To make money eventually. Air France might do that with us, and I for once will welcome a French handshake. (I will wash my hands quickly afterwards....)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Any port in a storm; huh,General ?


PHXFLYR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

So what if a foreign party comes in here and has a large share in an airline? What if they make the airlines stronger, produce more income, and in turn start creating good jobs once again? Looking at the way things are now, I would say things could not get much worse for the PAX carriers.

Because foreign ownership means foreign jobs.

The martime industry has a lot of indicators.

There is also DOD contracts and CRAF.

While Bush maybe the point man, the money men don't care who does the labor, just as long as they reap the profits...

Focus on the issue.... Foerign ownership is not good for the current Cadre of Air Line Pilots....

 

[Clyde]

Because foreign ownership means foreign jobs.

The martime industry has a lot of indicators.

There is also DOD contracts and CRAF.

While Bush maybe the point man, the money men don't care who does the labor, just as long as they reap the profits...

Focus on the issue.... Foerign ownership is not good for the current Cadre of Air Line Pilots....

Thanks for the insight. I didn't realize the part about foreign jobs. It doesen't sound like such a good idea now.

 

[maru657]

There is a large difference between political parties, at least today's partys. I can't say whether Hillery would be the best choice of the democratic party but at least I figure she's more of a man than bush and a heck of a lot smarter. Personally, I like that guy running for Gov of TX.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Just sent letters to my three elected officials. it took 30 sec via the legislation link on the ALPA website.