For those that want to "vote and get it over with" at SKYW

[Rez O. Lewshun]

CFIT-

"Pilots came to work and were meet by an armed guard. They were escorted to a company official who handed them thier termination notice and an application for employment at a lower rate"

Time to read Flying the Line.......

 

[CFIT]

STAUS QUO?????????????

How many participated in the bloody survey?
Why do we still have ready reserve?
Longevity hardly covers COLA here in de-valued dollarland.....the dollar does not have the buying power it once did. google "amero" if you don't believe

Do you believe longevity should be counted as COLA?

40-50 million a quarter in profits is more than spare change. I think we all know and realize that SGU can afford to be competitive and start spreading around more than a few nickels. If we just start a tip jar in the galley we could easily make more nickels than with the math wizard override. With record profits to start with we have earned a hard raise. BHO is still a somewhat peformance based raise. For starters we should at least get........700 should be plus $5.00/hr 900 should be plus $7.00/hr

Aproximately 70% of the pilot group participated in the scheduling survey.

I'm not sure why we have Ready Reserve but if I were to guess it would be so the company would have to not delay a flight for a hour and a half waiting for a regular reserve to come in, but again that's just a guess.

I'm not sure if longevity should be used in place of COLA, however, I don't know too many airlines that do, maybe you do?

I agree with you that 40 to 50 million dollars is more than spare change, what I like is that I'm given a cut of that profit every quarter.

The tip jar idea is a grand one, however my BHO is already over $5 for the 700 but it is less than what you suggest for the 900.

So ya, your right.
My bad......

 

[CFIT]

CFIT-

"Pilots came to work and were meet by an armed guard. They were escorted to a company official who handed them thier termination notice and an application for employment at a lower rate"

Time to read Flying the Line.......

Maybe we need more FFDO's?

 

[PCL_128]

Maybe we need more FFDO's?

Ahhh, the FFDO program. Yet another thing that ALPA has worked tirelessly to improve. Thanks for bringing that up.

 

[Tarzan]

Why do guys even waste your energy with the CFIT dude. He's too far gone in the company cool aid to be saved. Concentrate on the other, there is still hope for them.

So far as the union goes.... The company has my first loyalty since they sign my paycheck. (even if they show me no other loyalty in return and they generally don't) However, I support my union as well. I know where my work rules were negotiated and fought for. And it wan't by managment, but I'll do my best to be a professional. However, once the union says walk, I'll ask no questions. You'll see me walking the line. Got me a real good pair of shoes for it.

Q: As far as the rest of anti union guys, what happens when capitalism runs unchecked?
A: Monopoloy and abuse of the workers.
Q: Socialism?
A: Same as above.

Unions are a good check against unbridled capitalism.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Ahhh, the FFDO program. Yet another thing that ALPA has worked tirelessly to improve. Thanks for bringing that up.

Initially ALPA was opposed to armed pilots. APSA had to take the ball and run with it initially. After ALPA found which way the wind was blowing, they changed their tune. This and age 60 are issues that ALPA has flip-flopped on.

 

[Nightrain_080]

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Why do guys even waste your energy with the CFIT dude. He's too far gone in the company cool aid to be saved. Concentrate on the other, there is still hope for them.

So far as the union goes.... The company has my first loyalty since they sign my paycheck. (even if they show me no other loyalty in return and they generally don't) However, I support my union as well. I know where my work rules were negotiated and fought for. And it wan't by managment, but I'll do my best to be a professional. However, once the union says walk, I'll ask no questions. You'll see me walking the line. Got me a real good pair of shoes for it.

Q: As far as the rest of anti union guys, what happens when capitalism runs unchecked?
A: Monopoloy and abuse of the workers.
Q: Socialism?
A: Same as above.

Unions are a good check against unbridled capitalism.

Good post. Totally agreed

I still like CFIT.

 

[Weasil]

I flew with a captain recently who is on the ALPA organizing committee and he said that they had received election ballots from over 60% of the pilot group but that they were waiting to hold the election until they had a chance to get more information about ALPA out to the rest of the pilots. They want to send a strong message to the company by having a super majority of pilots vote for ALPA.
I have been an ALPA member at two previous airlines and I must say that the personal, negative attacks from other ALPA pilots on Skywest pilots are not helping the union drive. Everytime I fly with someone who has been ridiculed by a comair/asa pilot recently for "stealing" their airplanes seems to have decided that if that is the attitude that comes with being ALPA then they don't want it. You guys at other carriers need to be more professional (I'm just talking to the minority who act like this) if you want to help the ALPA drive.
Last saturday I was waiting for the hotel van standing next to a Comair crew. The grey-haired Comair captain muttered in our direction "Stop stealing our planes you scabs. If you would vote in ALPA you wouldn't be stealing our airplanes" (i'm paraphrasing, don't remember his exact words).

Besides the fact that most of those airplanes are going to another ALPA carrier (ASA), his statement really bothered the crewmember I was flying with to the point of turning him off having anything to do with ALPA. How about leading by example instead of throwing around the scab word and trying to lead by intimidation. We are professionals, not thugs.

 

[MarineGrunt]

I flew with a captain recently who is on the ALPA organizing committee and he said that they had received election ballots from over 60% of the pilot group but that they were waiting to hold the election until they had a chance to get more information about ALPA out to the rest of the pilots. They want to send a strong message to the company by having a super majority of pilots vote for ALPA.

I find that kind of hard to believe. If they thought they had the votes, I think they'd pull the trigger in a second. They might just be camping out to make sure most of those 60% will go in their favor. Just cause they sent the cards doesn't mean they will vote yes.

I do however completely agree with your statement below. I'm glad to see you showed more restraint than I probably would have...

I have been an ALPA member at two previous airlines and I must say that the personal, negative attacks from other ALPA pilots on Skywest pilots are not helping the union drive. Everytime I fly with someone who has been ridiculed by a comair/asa pilot recently for "stealing" their airplanes seems to have decided that if that is the attitude that comes with being ALPA then they don't want it. You guys at other carriers need to be more professional (I'm just talking to the minority who act like this) if you want to help the ALPA drive.
Last saturday I was waiting for the hotel van standing next to a Comair crew. The grey-haired Comair captain muttered in our direction "Stop stealing our planes you scabs. If you would vote in ALPA you wouldn't be stealing our airplanes" (i'm paraphrasing, don't remember his exact words).

Besides the fact that most of those airplanes are going to another ALPA carrier (ASA), his statement really bothered the crewmember I was flying with to the point of turning him off having anything to do with ALPA. How about leading by example instead of throwing around the scab word and trying to lead by intimidation. We are professionals, not thugs.

 

[pookie]

Marine,

From my contacts at skywest, i know that the card count is around 60% and they do want to have better than 80% to pull the trigger. My house mate is at skywest and he tells me the guy running the alpa drive is highly organized and has good people surrounding him. I dont think they are going to make the same mistakes as the past drives.

Weasil,
Sorry you had to go through that but we are all on the same team and there is no reason why pilots should be attacking pilots. It is management who has made us into what we are. I hope that you will get a chance to meet and talk to guys from skywest who are pro-alpa and get a fair assessment instead of the ahole from comair.