Folks Feeling Blue

[GuppyPuppy]

I am still trying to figure out why they canceled all of the E190 flights? I can understand canceling some flights so the JFK terminal isn't backed up with more pax, but how about flying one or maybe two of the scheduled flights to those affected cities? A lot of the E190 cities only have a few flights from JFK (like HOU, AUS, PIT, BNA, etc). Why park a whole fleet?


Bye Bye--General Lee

It was easier to cancel all E190 flying for 3 days than to figure out where crews and planes were.

Unfrickenbelieveable.

I'll probably be back to UA by June.

GP

 

[JetFumes]

We could all be witnessing the end of the airline -- any of us who work here will tell you: It's that bad. The recovery from this in terms of money, customer goodwill, resources, investor confidence, and employee trust is soo far in the future I am not sure it will even happen. The funny thing is, the story about stranding pax on the tarmac for 8 hours isn't even the real story. The real story is how fooked up this situation has become as a result of one storm, a situation that has now extened into Monday with the cancellation of all 190 operations on that day as well.

Southwest has run two airplanes off the runway and they're still around. Nobody got hurt. They all just got pissed off. Trust me when I say that they'll be back. I used to work at a regional on a turbo prop pissing people off on a daily basis, and they just kept coming and coming. NOT saying thats a good business plan but it sure looks like a lot of airlines plan does it not. We still have a lot of cash in the bank and I believe we will overcome this. A lot of analists (intentional misspell) feel the same way and that is why the stock has not crashed yet.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Southwest has run two airplanes off the runway and they're still around. Nobody got hurt. They all just got pissed off. Trust me when I say that they'll be back. I used to work at a regional on a turbo prop pissing people off on a daily basis, and they just kept coming and coming. NOT saying thats a good business plan but it sure looks like a lot of airlines plan does it not. We still have a lot of cash in the bank and I believe we will overcome this. A lot of analists (intentional misspell) feel the same way and that is why the stock has not crashed yet.

Maybe. But I ain't talking about the low fare crazy public. This will cost us MILLIONS in lost revenue, free tickets, pizza, holiday pay, rsa pay, glycol, marketing, vouchers, hotels -- shall I go on? That alone could kill us, in the sense that all of a sudden Neeleman is out (or better yet ousted, and he f-in should be) and guess what, jb is purchased/acquired/raided/stapled you name it by another carrier. What a great opportunity to put someone else's name on Terminal 5 (to be completed next year btw).

Oh and we are chartering other airlines to fly our pax. Nice. Shipping costs for bags? What else am I forgetting? Oh, yeah fuel taxiing around JFK and never actually going anywhere. Maybe we should have called our flights the "Goodfellas Tour of the Lufthansa Heist" and we could have avoided all of the outrage.

The kicker out of the "JB to People's Express Transition of 2007" is that from many accounts both jb and others, the JFK ATC and PANYNJ are complicit in all of this but the traveling public will not know nor care about such "minor" details.

 

[DougsRule]

Very well said... doesn't paint a pretty picture does it. What really kills me is that fact is that we management many times.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Very well said... doesn't paint a pretty picture does it. What really kills me is that fact is that we management many times.

We "what" management many times? Think you are missing a word.

The conspiracy to cover up the ineptitude will be just as massive as the meltdown.

 

[DougsRule]

Quite right Chef. In my anger my fingers are moving faster than a Vegas Hooker! I ment to say:

Very well said... doesn't paint a pretty picture does it. What really kills me is that fact is that we told management many times.

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Sorry for the confusion!

The conspiracy to cover up the ineptitude will be just as massive as the meltdown.

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And we will continue to pay for it. This time... it will cost us personally.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Quite right Chef. In my anger my fingers are moving faster than a Vegas Hooker! I ment to say:

Very well said... doesn't paint a pretty picture does it. What really kills me is that fact is that we told management many times.​

Sorry for the confusion!

The conspiracy to cover up the ineptitude will be just as massive as the meltdown.​

And we will continue to pay for it. This time... it will cost us personally.

Here's where I am spending the rest of the day...

https://www.pilotcredentials.com/careers/index.php?a=profile_entry

http://www.southwest.com/careers/pilots.html

 

[Smellycat]

Neelman...

But the landing gear were frozen to the ground, chuckle what could we do.

Gotta get a better answer, CEO. Blame it on the environment. Theres something very wrong with the lack of a proactive approach to that rare weather phenomena called...a nor'easter. :erm:

 

[DougsRule]

Here's where I am spending the rest of the day...

https://www.pilotcredentials.com/careers/index.php?a=profile_entry

http://www.southwest.com/careers/pilots.html

Dude... now THAT'S funny. Sad, but Funny. Thanks for the laugh...BTW do have that number to "Truckmaster"... Think I'm gonna need that!

 

[canyonblue]

Southwest has run two airplanes off the runway and they're still around.

Nice analogy, doughhead. uke: uke: uke:

 

[Bavarian Chef]

But the landing gear were frozen to the ground, chuckle what could we do.

Gotta get a better answer, CEO. Blame it on the environment. Theres something very wrong with the lack of a proactive approach to that rare weather phenomena called...a nor'easter. :erm:

Are you serious? Yep. My bad. Every other JFK carrier is cancelling flights through MONDAY because of WEDNESDAY'S storm.

 

[DougsRule]

Here's where I am spending the rest of the day...

https://www.pilotcredentials.com/careers/index.php?a=profile_entry

http://www.southwest.com/careers/pilots.html

Yo... Chef-ster... don't forget DAL and CAL.

www.AirlineApps.c-om

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I would think they parked the E190 to free up the gate space. Omni came in with DC-10s for heavy routes and the 320' went to some of the E190 routes. Is this what happened?

 

[1st Overnite]

“Passengers screaming, ‘We pay your salary.’

The passengers don't pay very well.

 

[atrdriver]

I am still trying to figure out why they canceled all of the E190 flights?

Wouldn 't it make more sense from an operational standpoint to put the available F/As on the larger equipment to move as many people as they could?