FLYi's business plan is falling apart (unfortunately)

[upndsky]

Actually, JI was an LCC when it folded. When they came to RDU, they billed themselves as a business airline and rode the dot-com bubble for a while, doing pretty well. Then the bubble burst and 9/11 happened, forcing them into BK. They reinvented themselves as an LCC. I remember flying from RDU to MCO on a brand new 737 for $49, including all the taxes. When that failed, they began flying CRJs for USAirways Express. Finally, the judge forced them to liquidate.

 

[KingAirer]

I disagree...But it really doesnt matter!

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Even when the 'bus really gets rolling for I-Air, it will probably just become a revolving door for JetBlue in the very same way that the 170 has for MidAtlantic.

Get'cher 320 type, and run, don't walk to the mailbox will probably become the mantra...

Nu

 

[tuna pimp]

Getting the Airbus online is the key to FlyI's success. Bankruptcy/Renegotiation of loans and contacts is neccessary to get the carrier through the 1st quarter. If FlyI is still around by then (and I hope they are) then they'll be in a much better position with some A319s feeding the CRJs. Having fuel costs come down to around $42 or so (if it stays) will also provide some immediate relief on the cash flow side of the equation as well.

Independance is a different beast from Midway for a few reasons:
1. They're operating out of Washington so there is a much stronger local O&D base from which to build. Raleigh is not a strong O&D market.
2. They have a strong North-South feed system already in place (today this is their archiles heel but it will become a strength as they take on more Airbus units).
3. FlyI seems to have a solid buzz going with their product. It appears geared towards women, who tend to be be the primary purchaser of tickets. Song has also created an airline who's soft marketing strategy is geared towards the ladies. Bill your airline as 'hip' and 'novel'.

Getting their fares listed on some GRS systems will put pressure on their distribution costs up front but will serve to improve LF as they move forward.

Independance is taking the correct steps in reducing frequencies from second tier markets like LAN and DAY. They need to push the aircraft into some larger markets not yet served (YYZ, YUL, STL, MSP, CVG perhaps) and add capacity in markets where they are carrying their QSP share and more.

Personally I'd put my money on them surviving but it won't be easy.

Just my humble opinion.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Personally I'd put my money on them surviving but it won't be easy.

Especially for the hundreds, I mean hundreds, of pilots getting furloughed....

 

[CaptBud330]

Great little airline

I flew IFly from TYS to IAD. The flight was flawless and the service was better then I have seen in quite a while. The safety announcements were very funny. Quite a welcome change in airline service. I hope they make it.

 

[On Your Six]

I flew IFly from TYS to IAD. The flight was flawless and the service was better then I have seen in quite a while. The safety announcements were very funny. Quite a welcome change in airline service. I hope they make it.

Service is great, but at the end of the day, a CRJ is a CRJ and most passengers would prefer something bigger... They better bring on the Airbuses as fast as they can to bring their average CASM down quick - plus, they better hope for a mild winter that won't interrupt their high-frequency operation too much...

 

[SloDoDriver]

I flew IFly from TYS to IAD. The flight was flawless and the service was better then I have seen in quite a while. The safety announcements were very funny. Quite a welcome change in airline service. I hope they make it.

Capt.....I am sure we appreciate the complement. There seems to be a vicious group out there that just loves to predict the demise of airlines. I personally have felt pain every time an airline has disappeared. My father was Pan Am, I have many US Air friends and UAL friends. I wish NO ONE had to go through the process. I never would have believed that DAL could be in jeopardy of BK!
I am looking at my second furlough at my second airline. I knew it could happen when I went into this business. There are many good people at Indy.
Indy made a mistake starting service with 87 CRJs....They where too nice and didn't do the furloughs that will be required to stay solvent and park half of the RJs. My furlough next year is a necessary evil. They will probably go deeper. Putting all our eggs in Dulles is another problem......Luckily the WX is always good there.....LOL

 

[GogglesPisano]

Capt.....I am sure we appreciate the complement. There seems to be a vicious group out there that just loves to predict the demise of airlines. I personally have felt pain every time an airline has disappeared. My father was Pan Am, I have many US Air friends and UAL friends. I wish NO ONE had to go through the process.

You mean vicious guys like this?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=42766

 

[bssthound]

Just wanted to point out that's a beagle starring in GooglePisano's avatar and not a basset hound!!!!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Just wanted to point out that's a beagle starring in GooglePisano's avatar and not a basset hound!!!!

LOL.

No, but the racoon told me he has an MBA. The dog has an ATP.

 

[Rogue5]

No, but the racoon told me he has an MBA. The dog has an ATP.

Now that was funny...

 

[WhiteCloud]

LOL.

No, but the racoon told me he has an MBA. The dog has an ATP.

ROTFLMAO! Thanks dude! You made me spit up my coffe all over the lap top! I needed a new computer anyway.

 

[iguanamanjr]

Has anyone heard anything about ACA actually selling several of the planes they put up for sale a month or two ago?

Thanks -

 

[vc10]

Four are now at Skywest, one is apparently already in operation there. FLYI put the original seats back into the aircraft.

Has anyone heard anything about ACA actually selling several of the planes they put up for sale a month or two ago?

Thanks -