FLYi...kicking butt!

[msk2468]

Beats me...but none of the above mentioned airlines had to shrink, sell airplanes, furlough half their pilots, beg for lease relief from creditors, default on lease payments and cut their schedule in half during their first 8 months of ops.

Hey Mick does ValueJet mean anything to you? Let me just say this, I am no expert but I have read a lot about the history of the airline business and I find it funny that airtran and JetBlue are mentioned in the same breath as southwest. Secondly, its a funny that everyone thinks these are the greatest airlines because they happen to be hiring right now. It will be interesting to see how opinions change on the hated legacy carriers when they come around and start hiring again whenever that may be. Airtran and JetBlue are fine airlines, but Airtran did have to restructure in a major way it just so happened to be at a better time...lower oil prices etc...and JetBlue is just new, check in again in 10 years. Southwest has been successful because of slow controlled growth, but all of these guys will have the share of challenges...its inevitable.

 

[-9Capt]

That's absolutely not what I'm saying. No need to put words in my mouth. Mickey was highlighting our 62.9% LF and SW's 63.3% wasn't much better this month.

Load Factor has next to nothing to do with profitability, it's all about the yield (RASM). You can have 101% LF and still loose money faster than a drunk frat boy in a casino if you're selling every seat for 39 bucks!!

 

[j41driver]

Dont waste your time arguing with Mickeyslapnutz. Same guy as etoper. Loser.

b

As usual...you are correct sir.

 

[neflier]

"I wonder how many more passengers Indy would have carried had there actually been 3 more days in Feburary...and that is with less available seats than Jan!"

My point exactly. Less airplane seats to fill and 3 less days than the month before, thus, your LF is inflated by the seats available reduction.

I hardly ever say this on the Internet, buy you sir are a complete moron, and complete morons are hard to come by. Having 3 days less in the month has nothing, zero, nadda to do with LF. LF is represented as a percentage of seats filled, not total pax flown.

I'm not jumping up and down for joy regarding the increase in LF. We're selling seats for $44. Of course people will fly down to Florida, in the winter, for $44. At that rate, we'd have a BELF of over 200%. Let's not forget that the reduction in schedule will result in our overhead costs being spread out over a smaller number of aircraft, thus increasing the CASM.

For the last two quarters in '04, we had an average loss of around 1 mil/day. I wonder what our cash burn was in February, with this 'awsome' increase in LF?

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

I hardly ever say this on the Internet, buy you sir are a complete moron, and complete morons are hard to come by. Having 3 days less in the month has nothing, zero, nadda to do with LF. LF is represented as a percentage of seats filled, not total pax flown.

I'm not jumping up and down for joy regarding the increase in LF. We're selling seats for $44. Of course people will fly down to Florida, in the winter, for $44. At that rate, we'd have a BELF of over 200%. Let's not forget that the reduction in schedule will result in our overhead costs being spread out over a smaller number of aircraft, thus increasing the CASM.

For the last two quarters in '04, we had an average loss of around 1 mil/day. I wonder what our cash burn was in February, with this 'awsome' increase in LF?

Two points:

1.If the month is short than you have "less" available seats to sell in the month. Thus your LF numbers are impacted.

2. Complete morons are very easy to come by.


The last half of your post is dead on. FLYi is in big,big trouble.

 

[neflier]

Two points:

1.If the month is short than you have "less" available seats to sell in the month. Thus your LF numbers are impacted.

2. Complete morons are very easy to come by.


The last half of your post is dead on. FLYi is in big,big trouble.

1. LF is the ratio of seats sold to total available seats. If Feb had three more days, and all things being equal, that ratio would not change. You are correct that a shorter month has less total seats to sell, but it also has less days to get pax into those seats, therefore, the ration remains the same.

2. You got me there, complete morons are easy to come by. All I have to do is look at ACA middle mgt.

 

[Angus]

Pyleofit Speaks...

How about you are an asshole!
737

As usual the mentally inferior cannot make a single point without using profanity....... LOL!!

 

[kingair350capt]

You guys are arguing with numbnuts and anus. Keep it up, it's fun to see people make complete fools of themselves.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

You guys are arguing with nuts and anus

where's the kawk in all of this?

 

[Angus]

Kingair captain...... really?!

You guys are arguing with numbnuts and anus. Keep it up, it's fun to see people make complete fools of themselves.

LOL!! You mean "fools" as in people who brag and label themselves as a "Kingair 350 Captain".....? LOL!

We're all certainly proud of you for that accomplishment... We didn't know there was such a title.... LOL!

 

[acaTerry]

Looks like Anus's parents are out of town again.

 

[Angus]

I guess the "Ellen" show is over....

Looks like Anus's parents are out of town again.

Hey look.... its assTerry... the loser who can't keep a job. Surprised you haven't changed your screen name to your current career..."Captain Couch".

Still making false enties in your logbook like you used too?? Why don't you tell everyone about those days there Mr. Integrity....

 

[FCNelson]

What is this whole Angus/Anus vs. acaTerry thing? Would somebody mind filling me in? Thanks!


FCN

 

[kingair350capt]

Hey anus-That's not quite what I mean. You need to go back and reread. LOL!
And BTW, when 2 crewmembers are needed, 1 is labeled a capt. I'm sure this is nothing new for you there skyking. LOL!

I also really don't give a rats a$$ what people think of my accomplishments- its just a username bud. LOL!

Have yourself a great night, time for me to have some beers!

 

[I.P. Freley]

What is this whole Angus/Anus vs. acaTerry thing? Would somebody mind filling me in? Thanks!

It's not an Angus vs. acaterry thing... It's an Angus vs. "every thinking individual on this message board" thing. Approximately 85% of Angus' posts are insulting, defamatory, or generally ill-tempered. His favorite insult is to refer to someone (everyone?) else as intellectually inferior... I guess he's the president of his local Mensa chapter. At least he'd like to have you think so... If he even has an inkling as to what Mensa IS.

When he has nothing else to say (which is frequently), he usually attacks someone on the basis of their username, as seen above in his latest "victim", Kingair350captain. Truly the refuge of the unimaginative... like saying "you can't make a point without profanity", which is another of his favorites. Another fave is "I'm a winner in this industry and you're a loser", another thing that he recently aimed at kingair350captain.

At least he's predictable. Five bucks to anyone who can find a time he actually said something "nice" (oh, I forgot, he "calls it as he sees it", and all he sees are idiots, which is evidence of something that I will leave to all of you to imagine on your own time).

 

[Angus]

Wow... are you two dating??

Hey anus-That's not quite what I mean. You need to go back and reread. LOL!
And BTW, when 2 crewmembers are needed, 1 is labeled a capt. I'm sure this is nothing new for you there skyking. LOL!
I also really don't give a rats a$$ what people think of my accomplishments- its just a username bud. LOL!
Have yourself a great night, time for me to have some beers!

Trust me.... no need for the essay "splainin" away your stupidity. We all see exactly what you mean, and where you're coming from...... and we're laughing as well.... only we're laughing AT you....LOL!

It's not an Angus vs. acaterry thing... It's an Angus vs. "every thinking individual on this message board" thing. Approximately 85% of Angus' posts are insulting, defamatory, or generally ill-tempered. His favorite insult is to refer to someone (everyone?) else as intellectually inferior... I guess he's the president of his local Mensa chapter. At least he'd like to have you think so... If he even has an inkling as to what Mensa IS.

When he has nothing else to say (which is frequently), he usually attacks someone on the basis of their username, as seen above in his latest "victim", Kingair350captain. Truly the refuge of the unimaginative... like saying "you can't make a point without profanity", which is another of his favorites. Another fave is "I'm a winner in this industry and you're a loser", another thing that he recently aimed at kingair350captain.

At least he's predictable. Five bucks to anyone who can find a time he actually said something "nice" (oh, I forgot, he "calls it as he sees it", and all he sees are idiots, which is evidence of something that I will leave to all of you to imagine on your own time).

Quite a mouthful... "I.P. Freley" .... but I'm sure that you're used to a mouthfull...

I'm still reeling with absolute hysterics over your screen name...."I.P. Freley". How in the world did you ever figure that one out?! That is just so cool and clever.....and did I mention original.

OMG - I just can't stop laughing so hard at the whole play on words that you are such a genius at. ("I.P. Freley..... you get it....its a play on words... LOL!! That is sooo funny....) I'm sure nobody would have ever thought of that one. You should go into comedy... seriously... with wit and humor and insight like that.... your talents are being totally wasted......

 

[I.P. Freley]

(see above)

As I said only two posts ago...

When he has nothing else to say (which is frequently), he usually attacks someone on the basis of their username, as seen above in his latest "victim", Kingair350captain.

I rest my case.

If that's the best you've got, I'm very disappointed in you... You're slipping, man!

 

[Angus]

I. P. Freley... the king of comedy...

(see above)

As I said only two posts ago...

I rest my case.

If that's the best you've got, I'm very disappointed in you... You're slipping, man!

What?? I just complimented you. Read my post... I said how clever, and witty, and funny your screen name "I.P. Freley" is. (Did I mention original). It has got to be the BEST original, funny, clever screen name I've EVER seen on the flightinfo.... and maybe the entire internet....

I can't believe you thought up that hysterical screen name... don't you realize how unbelieveably funny it is. You must have been just laughing and laughing and laughing when you registered and came up with that gem of a name "I.P. Freley"....

Well it just goes to show you that some people just don't know how to appreciate anything.....

 

[kingair350capt]

Anus
You're hurting my feelings! LOL. What ever shall I do? People are laughing at me? OH NO!!! The world is coming to an end. Seems you're the only A-HOLE laughing. Oh wait, I must be inferior now because I called u an A-HOLE. I'm so very sorry. Enjoy!!

PS-you are f'n hilarious. We need more people like you around.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Angus=The Original One-Trick Pony

Come up with some new material. If the best you can do is berate me for my username (for what, the fourth time now?), you have indeed run out of ideas.

I do applaud you, however, for being the one poster on flightinfo with the most consistent lack of originality. At least move on to suggesting I'm gay, that I lack an education beyond the fifth grade, that I am not the "winner" that you are, that I work for a bad company, call me a name, call me immature, suggest that I'm emotionally scarred, say I'm unprofessional, or another of your usual lines.

P.S.- Your use of sarcasm needs a little work if even I, of the GED-needin' kind, can figure it out.

 

[House_X]

MODERATOR

Time to ban Angus or at least put him in the "the Box"...

This is getting out of control...

 

[FCNelson]

I just got back after a 3 day sentence in the Penalty Box for some very minor transgressions. If what I did is a 'crime' by Flightinfo standards, Angus should get the death penalty! But I agree, the moderators are micromanaging some people, and letting others get away with making a mockery of what this board wants to be.....

 

[typhoonpilot]

After reading this whole thread and seeing some of Angus's posts on other threads he has made my ignore list. Congratulations Angus, you are the first person in over three years that has made that list. I suggest everone else do the same. It will make our board much better.

TP

 

[Angus]

Wow... 3 in a row all lined up...

MODERATOR
Time to ban Angus or at least put him in the "the Box"...
This is getting out of control...

What is out of control? People blasting me for my opinion... and me firing back. With your theory 2/3 of this entire board would be in the "box" or banned. Get real...

I just got back after a 3 day sentence in the Penalty Box for some very minor transgressions. If what I did is a 'crime' by Flightinfo standards, Angus should get the death penalty! But I agree, the moderators are micromanaging some people, and letting others get away with making a mockery of what this board wants to be.....

The fact that YOU got sent to the "box" is YOUR problem. Don't try to lay your inability to participate properly on these forums into my problem.

I have abided by ALL the flightinfo rules. You obviously did not... and were RIGHTFULLY put in your place by the moderators... HA! HA!

Some people may not like my opinion... but the things I say are quite benign compared to some of the hate filled anger management candidates around here.

After reading this whole thread and seeing some of Angus's posts on other threads he has made my ignore list. Congratulations Angus, you are the first person in over three years that has made that list. I suggest everone else do the same. It will make our board much better.TP

Completely false....

Your post while appearing very noble, courageous, and yet self serving.....is filled with lies and inaccuracies... and the bottom line......what you are telling people is simply not true. I would tell you how I know... but then I might incriminate myself...LOL!!

 

[Daveman]

I wish the best for you guy's at FLYi.

******

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

BAN HER, NOW!

 

[Neal]

angus just got 5 days in the box!

mark - webmaster

 

[737 Pylt]

angus just got 5 days in the box!

mark - webmaster

snif, snif (wiping a tear from my eye)
I LOVE YOU MAN!!!
but you're still not getting any of my bud light!
737

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

angus just got 5 days in the box!

mark - webmaster

Banned not by a regular line moderator but the Webmaster no less.

Pretty impressive.

Any takers on a bet that Angus will go out in a blaze of glory much like Skull1???

HMM

 

[skyaddict]

"Loseing just under a million a day and the lowest load factor in the industry"

How about Johnny O's Air Midwest? 38% load factor according to that scumbag's own hotline. FLYi a pig? Of course it might not make it, but the fat lady is not gearing up to sing nearly as much as she was a month ago. In the meantime, FLYi just keeps getting more and more airbusses, slowly but surely. It's true that from a pilot group perspective, FLYi has been a disaster for all except those who can solidly hold an Airbus seat. However, from a shareholder and long-term survival perspective, things are slowly looking better now that the mix of high CASM RJs is being thinned out, buying time to keep those Airbus deliveries coming.

I have no illusions about how unlikely it is that I'll ever get to go back there, and I think senior management made some huge mistakes along the way- such as choosing not to go with GDS from day one. But sticking with Untied, while it might have let me keep my job, would have been a bleak future for the company, long-term.