FLOPS management does it again!!!!

[onetimer]

RNO

we are not talking about the CEO we are talking about a line pilot and his family.

O by the way the family went home yesterday on a Hawker 800xp..... So I guess that crew told you about this trip too, right?[/QUOTE]


I still don't buy it. If it was in fact who you say it was on this flight, he's not a line pilot, he's part of senior management - that gets to do these things. Like I've said in the past, we're hired to fly the airplanes regardless of who's on board (after passing the screening process). If your tour consisted of moving parts around the country to support other planes or to tour colleges for an exec's kid, it shouldn't matter. Just fly and like it, that's the job.

I know I'll be hated for this one. Bring it.

Bring it??? what are you in High school. The fact is your a brown nose suckass end of subject! O and the crew did tell me..i'v got more if you need to know..time will tell of the true you...we have eyes and ears on everthing... see ya..

 

[waka]

RNO

we are not talking about the CEO we are talking about a line pilot and his family.

O by the way the family went home yesterday on a Hawker 800xp..... So I guess that crew told you about this trip too, right?[/QUOTE]


I still don't buy it. If it was in fact who you say it was on this flight, he's not a line pilot, he's part of senior management - that gets to do these things. Like I've said in the past, we're hired to fly the airplanes regardless of who's on board (after passing the screening process). If your tour consisted of moving parts around the country to support other planes or to tour colleges for an exec's kid, it shouldn't matter. Just fly and like it, that's the job.

I know I'll be hated for this one. Bring it.

Just when I think that you have outdone yourself, you surpass your idiot self and reaffirm that you're a management plant that's too stupid to be given another task.

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

He's a middle manager at best, and he still holds a position on the seniority list. It is a perk that is usually well beyond his level. It is also a perk that is taxable if it isn't for business purposes, and it's gonna be hard to justify business purposes for his family. Even if he is doing research or something for the APG profiles, he should have taken an airliner... his time isn't that valuable.

Will anyone at FLOPS have the balls to turn him in if it's a BS trip? How the IRS would love to handle this one or even a news agency in the CLE area.
It's BS that someone from the pilot ranks would turn on his fellow buds.

 

[993_Pilot]

Will anyone at FLOPS have the balls to turn him in if it's a BS trip? How the IRS would love to handle this one or even a news agency in the CLE area.
It's BS that someone from the pilot ranks would turn on his fellow buds.

It's not about whether anyone will turn him in. I don't know anything about the circumstances. Hell, he may have even paid for the trip for all I know. I was just calling B.S. on Skanza's idea that he is "Senior Management" and that it's just one of the perks.

Secondly, it was a poor use of company resources, even if he was on company business of some kind.

Most importantly, it shows that the company isn't struggling as much as they would have us all believe, regardless of the reasons for the trip.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Stmfd

Peak travel days

Friday november 20th
Tuesday november 24th
Wednesday november 25th
Sunday november 29th
Thursday december 24th
Sunday december 27th

High demand days

Monday September 7th
Monday October 12th
Saturday November 28th
Monday November 30th
Wednesday December 23rd
Saturday december 26th
Monday December 28th


And look for the limited platinum skumza edition 100 ways to preflight a beechjet to be released on 11-08.

 

[brokeflyer]

And look for the limited platinum skumza edition 100 ways to preflight a beechjet to be released on 11-08.

first round is on me for that one.

wtg

 

[dime line]

I can find the 50 ways to preflight a BJ, already in print

 

[B19 Flyer]

I'd be really concerned about your personal life...

I can find the 50 ways to preflight a BJ, already in print

Ya know dime line... if I didn't know that you were talking about an airplane I'd be really concerned about your personal life...

 

[brokeflyer]

as bad as i feel saying it.....

he's got ya there dime.....

 

[dime line]

Yea ok B19, we will have to give it to ya. Better yet B19 I know you have a copy of that preflight page, go ahead and post it here for us to see.

 

[skanza]

Oh, oh I have a copy! Shall I post?
Wait, I forgot. The reason for the list is all about safety and the PIC's authority over the flight. It has nothing to do with affecting the operation on peak travel days because you're mad about not getting a fu(king contract/raise.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Skumza, Skumza, Skumza, would you give it up already. We know who you are. You're the guy who can't pass an upgrade checkride after three attempts and the only reason you're not history is because you have naked pictures of Michael Schreenga with a six year old boy. The only question I have for you is will you still wear that pretty new uniform shopping for groceries and around town so all your neighbors still think you are impotent after we turn this place into a pile of rubble that is deserves to be?

 

[skanza]

Wow, you really sunk to a new professional low there, hatedog. Come on, with the pictures thing? Seriously?
And why not just quit if you hate it so much that you wish the place a pile of rubble? I guess you really are weak...

Do you *really* know who I am? If so...post it.

 

[Myster79]

No, Skanza is most likely the type of pilot that can't get hired anywhere else. He was probably lucky Flight Options took him in the first place. Any competent pilot worth his salt would not stand for anything less than the contract they deserve.

And yes Skanza we are mad. However, we will pre-flight the aircraft the same way after a contract is in place as before. As professionals safety is our number one priority.

Furthermore, your FUD campaign is over, we don't care what you or B-19 write on this site. If it comes to a strike, then we will strike. The company had over 3 years to make this right. They chose to pay high priced attorneys and use lackey's like you to run a FUD campaign, it didn't work. Flight Options management is responsible for the current situation, not Flight Options Pilots.

 

[993_Pilot]

...Furthermore, your FUD campaign is over, we don't care what you or B-19 write on this site. If it comes to a strike, then we will strike. The company had over 3 years to make this right. They chose to pay high priced attorneys and use lackey's like you to run a FUD campaign, it didn't work. Flight Options management is responsible for the current situation, not Flight Options Pilots.

Can I get an "Amen" ?

 

[skanza]

No, Skanza is most likely the type of pilot that can't get hired anywhere else. He was probably lucky Flight Options took him in the first place. Any competent pilot worth his salt would not stand for anything less than the contract they deserve. Nice try.

And yes Skanza we are mad. However, we will pre-flight the aircraft the same way after a contract is in place as before. As professionals safety is our number one priority. No, your salary seems to be your priority.

Furthermore, your FUD campaign is over, we don't care what you or B-19 write on this site. When did you ever care? If it comes to a strike, then we will strike. Yeah, maybe all 6-10 of you on this site. See how that works out for ya... The company had over 3 years to make this right. They chose to pay high priced attorneys and use lackey's like you to run a FUD campaign, it didn't work. I'm not running a "campaign". I think and speak for myself. Just because I don't agree with you greedy union fools, you assume I'm in with management. Really I'm just calling out the BS that I see. Flight Options management is responsible for the current situation, not Flight Options Pilots.

You're way off. I'm guessing you didn't read the email from the COO.

 

[William Holiday]

Why don't you post the email. It might be a good read.

 

[ITFL]

You're way off. I'm guessing you didn't read the email from the COO.

What e-mail? Please tell me it is not about "management by trust".

 

[netjetwife]

Can I get an "Amen" ?

Absolutely! Amen!! The Options pilots hold the moral high ground. Management has been dragging their feet and hurting families in the process. It's time to settle the contract and start treating the pilotgroup like the valuable partner they are---AMEN!

 

[993_Pilot]

You're way off. I'm guessing you didn't read the email from the COO.

Skanza, you're an idiot. It has always been only about the money... but only from managements perspective. Benifits, work rules and scope clauses all cost money and management doesn't want to pay. Yeah, we want a salary on par with the other companies too, but what pilot does value their time less than those at the competition, besides you? The Time for FUD is over, so shut up, and tell your management friends to "Put Up" or we'll walk. They have until Friday at noon... this has gone on long enough. The clock is ticking.