Flight Options, Hiring, QOL?

[dueguard1]

Looking to find out some info on Flight Options?

Any hiring going on?

Bases?

Overall QOL?

What's the union and management's latest?

Thanks

 

[be-400xpdriver]

What are you smoking? CRACK?? Why the hell would you want to work there?

 

[dime line]

"Over all QOL"

What does QOL mean, we at FLOP don't know that lingo

 

[Flybet3]

What are you smoking? CRACK?? Why the hell would you want to work there?

Because he's a low timer and still kicking....uke:

 

[jetwash]

Flight Options management has been sending out letters informing us about lay offs coming in the near future with the reduction in the number of aircraft.

So it doesn't look too good for hiring anytime soon.

 

[Flybet3]

Flight Options management has been sending out letters informing us about lay offs coming in the near future with the reduction in the number of aircraft.

So it doesn't look too good for hiring anytime soon.

YIKES!!!!!

 

[dime line]

Yea our Management "Team" dosen't like us all that much

 

[Flybet3]

Yea our Management "Team" dosen't like us all that much

poor bastards....i actually talk to a Hawker Pilot from flight ops that was thinking about taking a pay cut and going to avantair. I guess that means things are pretty bad down there.

 

[cjdriver]

Are the Citations still taking vacations?

 

[dime line]

Yea Flybet, I think that is the extreme, sounds like, maybe more to that story. Personally if the union wasnt voted in, I was gone. Now that the union is here, remember how it was at NJ before there contract, and now look at NJ post contract, I'm staying. It will get better. But the games are here now, and were playing.

 

[dime line]

CJ.....I don't know the exact number, but the 3's are all but gone. Were well on our way to getting rid of the used stuf. The last G-4 will be gone, I think next month, I don't know about the CJ's, Ive seen a few of them, so there still here. I'm in the "New" BJ program

 

[johnsonrod]

How many Citation Xs are currently on the property? How many are expected to be added going forward?

 

[dime line]

Its around 9 for the C-X

 

[sky4]

5 CJ's right now and I believe 1 more gone this year. but that could change.

 

[cjdriver]

The 'Baby Jet ' was a good gig. The Hawkers was a b-buster, but a great bird.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

I heard that if you want a job at Flight Options now they have added 500 hours glider time to their minimums. Guess they aren't confident that Raytheon has a clue on how to fix the Beechjet 400 dual-engine flameouts.

 

[greygoose]

I heard that if you want a job at Flight Options now they have added 500 hours glider time to their minimums. Guess they aren't confident that Raytheon has a clue on how to fix the Beechjet 400 dual-engine flameouts.

I thought they did. Turn on the Engine Heat before throttle reduction.

 

[MED]

QOL====Quality Of Life,,,,this guy is spending too much time in PPRUNE.org

 

[johnsonrod]

QOL====Quality Of Life,,,,this guy is spending too much time in PPRUNE.org

I think he was being sarcastic and implying that they don't have a good QOL at Flight Options...

 

[MED]

I think he was being sarcastic and implying that they don't have a good QOL at Flight Options...

Disregard previous message, I'm slow.

 

[SpaceBall 1]

CJ.....I don't know the exact number, but the 3's are all but gone. Were well on our way to getting rid of the used stuf. The last G-4 will be gone, I think next month, I don't know about the CJ's, Ive seen a few of them, so there still here. I'm in the "New" BJ program

How about the chick in MED's avitar. Is she in the new "BJ" program as well?!?!? If so...........sign me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dime line]

dammm thats long, hmmmmmmm I wonder..........

 

[BoeingBaller]

How about the chick in MED's avitar. Is she in the new "BJ" program as well?!?!? If so...........sign me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO Doubt!!!!!

 

[clickclickboom]

FLOPS will FLOP

Spent over 7 years at flops saw it go from a great place to a near craphole due to mismanagement. There are some awesome guys at flops.. I looked at the financials and they lost approx 43million in 04 and after all of these programs they had in place to return to profitability they lost 114 million in 05.. All the big jets going bye bye.. seniority number 9 just moved into the citation X from the GIV.. Pay raises year over year were non existent. Upgrades have nearly stopped and guys that have been flying mid cabin planes for over 5 years are probably going to end up as beechjunk capt's due to no upgrades and the senior guys moving backwards.. Passengers hate the legacy cause they feel like they are flying a commuter with a new paint job plus .77 doesnt work on some of the tracks so the x ends up going intl. I bailed in the top 10% of the seniority list and dont regret it one bit. As this company gets smaller mgmt aims to position it for a sale but why would anybody buy a sinking ship when time will just make flops dissappear?

 

[johnsonrod]

Let's say you are one of the few remaining pilots flying the Falcon 50 or the GIV. How much longer could you expect to fly those aircraft before you would get bumped to the Legacy or the X? Is there a set phase-out date or is there an owner contract that mandates a certain amount of time (5 years from share purchase)?

Personally, I always wanted to fly a Falcon 50 and I am sure those guys won't be happy to leave it for a Legacy........

 

[clickclickboom]

Let's say you are one of the few remaining pilots flying the Falcon 50 or the GIV. How much longer could you expect to fly those aircraft before you would get bumped to the Legacy or the X? Is there a set phase-out date or is there an owner contract that mandates a certain amount of time (5 years from share purchase)?

Personally, I always wanted to fly a Falcon 50 and I am sure those guys won't be happy to leave it for a Legacy........

The 50's are gone and there is one GIV left.. It is going as well.. All the large cabins with the exception of the legacies are GONE that why the most seniro pilots in the company are going back to the x and the hawker 800's

 

[dash_trash]

I am an Army of One!

That is why FLOPS pilots need to embrace this motto. Although written with Continental in mind, it is the precisely what's needed there, among many other things.



I am an Army of One (or 2, or 300, ...)


I am an army of One - A Captain in the Continental
Airlines army.
For years I was a loyal soldier in Gordon's army. Now I
fight my own war.
I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere
fodder.
They (CAL) used to exhibit labor leadership. Now they
exploit legal loopholes.
They used to enjoy my maximum. Now they will suffer my
minimum.
I am an army of One.

I used to save CAL a thousand pounds of fuel per leg;
finding the best FL, getting direct routing, throttling
back when on-time was made, skimping during ground ops,
adjusting for winds, being smart and giving the company
every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "burn baby,
burn".
I used to call maintenance while airborne, so the part
would be ready at the gate. Now, they'll find the write-
up when they look in the book.
I used to try to fix problems in the system, now I sit
and watch as the miscues pile up.
I used to fly sick. Now I use my sick days, on short
notice, on the worst day of the month.
I am an army of One.

I used to start the APU at the last possible moment. Now
my customers enjoy extreme comfort.
I used to let the price of fuel at out-stations affect my
fuel orders. I still do.
I used to cover mistakes by operations. Now I watch them
unfold.
I used to hustle to ensure an on-time arrival, to make us
the best. Now I do it for the rampers and agents who
need the bonus money….but this too may change.
I used to call dispatch for rerouting, to head off ground
delays for bad weather. Now I collect overs, number 35
in line for takeoff.

I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided
leadership of indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not contracts. It's about leading
by taking care of your people instead of leadership by
bean counters (an oxymoron). With acts of omission, not
commission, I am a one-man wrecking crew - an army of
One. My mission used to be to make CAL rich. Now it's
to make CAL pay.

When they furlough more pilots than the rest, pilots that
cost them 60 cents on the dollar - I will make them
pay.
When they under-staff bases and over-work reserves to
keep pilots downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I
will make them pay.
When over-booked customers are denied boarding system
wide, while jets are parked in the desert - I will make
them pay.
When they force pilots, who have waited 12 years to
become captains, to be FOs again - I will make them
pay.
When they ask CAL pilots to show leadership at Express,
and then deny them longevity - I will make them pay.

When they recall F/As for the summer, just to furlough
them again in the fall like migrant workers - I will
make them pay.
When they constantly violate the letter and spirit of our
contract - a contract that's a bargain by any measure,
and force us to fight lengthy grievances - I will make
them pay.

My negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my
own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that
made me. Are you listening? This mercenary has a lot of
years left with this company; how long can you afford
to keep me bitter? I'm not looking for clauses in a
contract, I'm looking for a culture of commitment and
caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for CAL again.
Until then, I am an Army of One…And I'm not alone!

 

[Fozzy]

Wow

Where was that 12 months ago. That was NJA.

Good luck.