Flight Options and the Phenom 300 Program

[Pervis]

Wet or snowy runway with a bit of a tailwind and maybe 5000 feet or so

Oh yes the numbers work

So do the decisions of the crew. I have yet to get push back for calling up and saying 'it's not safe'. Mileage (fleets) may vary, but I feel very confident my supervisors will support my decisions.

 

[Waldom]

Many airplane types through history have developed a bad reputation and not all of them were deserved. Quite often the airplane whose reputation is being trashed was never flown by the pilots expressing the opinion. I wonder how many of the pilots with negative comments have flown this airplane?

I don't know a thing about the manufacturer or the particular type, but would like to hear an evaluation by someone who has actually operated the airplane.

 

[hangarrash]

I fly for Options. I just got checked out in the Nextant and it is impressive. It routinely flies from the midwest to the west coast without a fuel stop. From the west coast to the southeast and FL without a fuel stop. From the east coast to ski country, again, without a fuel stop. All with passengers.
I haven't flown the 300 but it will do all of that with almost three times the luggage space and go from SL to 45,000 in 17 min. Proven fact.

With the phasing out of the older 400's for the Nextant and the addition of the 300's, Options will have an entire fleet aircraft with a range of 2,000 nm or greater.

That's saying something...

 

[paulsalem]

Thanks hangarrash, nice post. Could you share your thoughts on the cabins of the 400XT and P300?

 

[hangarrash]

Sure,

The Nextant has a rear club with a three place divan opposite the main door. It looks and feels much bigger.

The 300 has a rear club as well but it also has the trench in the center aisle that some like but most don't. Depends on your taste.

Both have wifi and a smaller galley but, in reality, most of the galley space is wasted anyway so it's more efficient that way.

Hope this helps.

 

[rajflyboy]

So do the decisions of the crew. I have yet to get push back for calling up and saying 'it's not safe'. Mileage (fleets) may vary, but I feel very confident my supervisors will support my decisions.

Oh Its safe

until suddenly black ice you didn't know about shows up

and now you have no way to control it except a go around (after touchdown)

better hope that anti skid is awful damn good

Just saying

 

[NJAowner]

The Nextant is a huge increase in comfort for the passengers. Essentially, the old 400XPs were good for 2 pax, ok for 4, and real rough with anything over 4. The new seating configuration in the Nextant makes it very comfortable for 4, and even give passengers 5 and 6 decent leg room.

 

[rajflyboy]

The Nextant is a huge increase in comfort for the passengers. Essentially, the old 400XPs were good for 2 pax, ok for 4, and real rough with anything over 4. The new seating configuration in the Nextant makes it very comfortable for 4, and even give passengers 5 and 6 decent leg room.

Amen !

 

[rajflyboy]

bad days aren't good

 

[rajflyboy]

Phenom does have a nice cabin and cockpit.

 

[hangarrash]

Oh Its safe

until suddenly black ice you didn't know about shows up

and now you have no way to control it except a go around (after touchdown)

better hope that anti skid is awful damn good

Just saying

Just what are TR's and antiskid going to do on black ice at touchdown speed or even a slower speed at which you apply the brakes?

 

[waka]

Jesus, you have replaced instuctordude as the biggest dildo here. Talk about shiny jet syndrome.

A. Lighten up Francis. There is nothing SJS about those questions.

B. Sarcasm lost on you? Instructor Dude is OBVIOUSLY sarcastic and most with any semblance of a sense of humor happens to enjoy his posts.

C. You're not too bright.

 

[paulsalem]

Just saying

Yea it would be nice to have another way to help stop the aircraft. Maybe they can add a drogue chute.

 

[rajflyboy]

I just wanted to get your professional opinion on TR's

didn't want a circus

 

[rettofly]

A. Lighten up Francis. There is nothing SJS about those questions.

B. Sarcasm lost on you? Instructor Dude is OBVIOUSLY sarcastic and most with any semblance of a sense of humor happens to enjoy his posts.

C. You're not too bright.

You just can't help yourself, can you? You always have to end your posts with something derogatory. That says a lot more about you than about whomever you are replying to.

 

[Waldom]

Oh Its safe

until suddenly black ice you didn't know about shows up

and now you have no way to control it except a go around (after touchdown)

better hope that anti skid is awful damn good

Just saying

Just out of interest, have you ever flown a jet without thrust reverses or a Phenom 300?

 

[BE40Driver]

Phenom 300

Yes, I fly the Phenom for Flightoptions and Love it. The Gramin takes awhile to get use to. Will stop very short with big brakes and slow ref speeds. Most of the pax enjoy it. Will takeoff on short field with a high climb rate and sips fuel at FL450 (same as idle on the ground). Most flights are done at FL450 or FL430.

 

[platinum750]

A Lear 25 also burns the same on the ground and at 410 and noone has confused it with efficiency

 

[waka]

You just can't help yourself, can you? You always have to end your posts with something derogatory. That says a lot more about you than about whomever you are replying to.

Nope, not always, not even most. As for the post in question, I call 'em as I see 'em.

I bet you were in the Safety Patrol when you were in elementary school.

 

[johnsonrod]

Yes, I fly the Phenom for Flightoptions and Love it. The Gramin takes awhile to get use to. Will stop very short with big brakes and slow ref speeds. Most of the pax enjoy it. Will takeoff on short field with a high climb rate and sips fuel at FL450 (same as idle on the ground). Most flights are done at FL450 or FL430.

Finally, someone answers the original questions. Thanks!

 

[fischman]

Yes, I fly the Phenom for Flightoptions and Love it. The Gramin takes awhile to get use to. Will stop very short with big brakes and slow ref speeds. Most of the pax enjoy it. Will takeoff on short field with a high climb rate and sips fuel at FL450 (same as idle on the ground). Most flights are done at FL450 or FL430.

That's a lot of time on the mask. Please tell me you guys aren't using the head squeezing EROS for those missions.

 

[G4dude]

That's a lot of time on the mask. Please tell me you guys aren't using the head squeezing EROS for those missions.

I suspect all Phenom pilots will begin to look like Huckleberry Hound, wearing that mask so much.

 

[Fedmagnet]

Oxy Tanks always seem to be still full after landing?? Crews must be using smoke hood.

 

[Fedmagnet]

From AIN

Despite Legal Woes, Cleveland Jet Center Still Open
In response to recent confusion regarding the status of the Cleveland Jet Center (CJC) at Cleveland Cuyahoga County Airport, AIN learned that the facility was placed into court-ordered receivership late last month as a result of default proceedings on a multimillion-dollar loan by owner Canyon Properties. Canyon is run by Scott Beale, the chairman and CEO of Michigan-based Aerodynamics (ADI), and his wife, Jennifer. At a hearing last Thursday, a Cuyahoga County court ruled that CJC will remain in the hands of the receiver until the dispute is settled or the property is sold. Until then, the FBO–which remains open and operational–will be managed with the assistance of Flight Options, which has loaned service employees. Many of CJC's staff have apparently jumped to Evolution Air, the other FBO at the airport. Previously a location in the Atlantic Aviation chain, the present Evolution site was acquired by a CJC subsidiary early last year, according to a release by Atlantic parent company Macquarie Infrastructure. Beale, the former president and CEO of charter management provider FlightWorks, is also currently facing a lawsuit alleging that he misrepresented himself and his wife as the sole shareholders of the Atlanta-based aviation services company to secure loans for Canyon Properties.

Smells like Richi raiding another company for a cheap take-over.

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

The tanks would be full if the mask was in normal mode instead of 100 percent. In normal mode the mask is in diluter demand and at an 8000 foot or less cabin very little O2 is drawn.

 

[dime line]

Despite Legal Woes, Cleveland Jet Center Still Open
In response to recent confusion regarding the status of the Cleveland Jet Center (CJC) at Cleveland Cuyahoga County Airport, AIN learned that the facility was placed into court-ordered receivership late last month as a result of default proceedings on a multimillion-dollar loan by owner Canyon Properties. Canyon is run by Scott Beale, the chairman and CEO of Michigan-based Aerodynamics (ADI), and his wife, Jennifer. At a hearing last Thursday, a Cuyahoga County court ruled that CJC will remain in the hands of the receiver until the dispute is settled or the property is sold. Until then, the FBO–which remains open and operational–will be managed with the assistance of Flight Options, which has loaned service employees. Many of CJC's staff have apparently jumped to Evolution Air, the other FBO at the airport. Previously a location in the Atlantic Aviation chain, the present Evolution site was acquired by a CJC subsidiary early last year, according to a release by Atlantic parent company Macquarie Infrastructure. Beale, the former president and CEO of charter management provider FlightWorks, is also currently facing a lawsuit alleging that he misrepresented himself and his wife as the sole shareholders of the Atlanta-based aviation services company to secure loans for Canyon Properties.

Smells like Richi raiding another company for a cheap take-over.

Now im not a Ricci fan, but I just don't see it.