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Flight instructors need for FIT Aviation in Melbourne, Fl

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flyflorida2001

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FIT Aviation (Florida Tech) is looking for flight instructors for the upcoming semester and year. Qualified Applicants will need CFI and CFII and be available to beign work January 3, 2006.

If interested please send a resume to:
FIT Aviation
Attn: Jason Maceyunas
640 Harry Sutton Rd
Melbourne, FL 32901


Good pay and possible benefits. Fly 20-40 hours per week.

I am a current instructor and just wanted to put the word out there. We need people. Be prepared for a rather indepth interview as we require instructors to be VERY knowledgable.
 
Not a bad school to work for, nice location and new airplanes, however because it is a University you will probably be laid off for the summer (starting in May) if you are not classified as regular part-time. I have friends that worked there and were sent home for three months during the summer months. Melbourne is a nice place though, just live out on the beach, Indialantic, Indian Harbour Beach, or Satellite Beach. Avoid Palm Bay and West Melbourne.
 
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Who is running the show now? I heard that the general got fired, thank god. Jason was one of my instructors there and a really nice guy. Hopefully the rest of the flight school has gotten better since I left.
 
Things are SO much better now. The General is gone, so is his entourage of goonies (Marsha, Wayne, and the rest of them). Jason is the Chief Instructor now. A guy named Frank Gallagher took over for Mcentyre.

It has turned into a much better school and a much better place to work than when I was a student.
 
StrykerFL said:
Not a bad school to work for, nice location and new airplanes, however because it is a University you will probably be laid off for the summer (starting in May) if you are not classified as regular part-time. I have friends that worked there and were sent home for three months during the summer months. Melbourne is a nice place though, just live out on the beach, Indialantic, Indian Harbour Beach, or Satellite Beach. Avoid Palm Bay and West Melbourne.

What's wrong with W. Melbourne?
 
The usual.....

Sounds like the usual offer. They classify you as non-faculty and lump you with all the in-house time builders. That translates into no medical and no salary. Now, in defense of FIT, it is Florida, so your expectation of actually getting to work those billable hours during winter semester is MUCH BETTER than some of the midwestern locations I've applied to. Also, you will never be able to fly decent equipment like that (and for the discount rates these colleges give you) on a part 61 outfit so not arguing there at all.

I'm doing the job search thing for January employment, and focusing on universities, and the job offers I've got hurt. I came back from an interview and was driving back home, talking to the gf on the phone trying to get some feedback, although I was already fairly dissapointed with the offer. She secures the conversation with: "Listen, I can match that income with my commissioned RETAIL job, working 25-30hrs and I go to school full-time as you know; you just got offered a de facto part time job"...dang the truth hurts. I guess to those of us who are not interested in pursuing a CFI job as a stepping stone to the airlines it's just not good enough to get paid in cookies..*cough* I mean flight time. :D


This thread also reminds me of another thing. All these outfits just won't cough it up, I've had to put my foot down and uncomfortably request they fessed up the d^mn compensation information, but then again I wasn't brought up in the school of thought that said asking for people's compensation was "crass and improper"..oh that's right my parents were both govt working bees, their salaries were always public domain :D

It has been my experience that only those people who are either making sh%t or making morally reprehensible amounts are the groups that get offended. I'm sure this offer is of the former.

I wouldn't be surprised if the FIT job called for $15/hr billable time (flight, ground or sim), no university benfits, considered full-time but non-faculty (i.e. you keep the hourly rate and not a salary, but you don't get laid off on the summers). Actually not a bad deal...in FLORIDA. Anywhere else I wouldn't look twice. Now, I'm giving them the benfit of the doubt, cause I gotta tell ya, I've heard worse offers. Try a probationary period pay rate for the first semester that's lower than working at Mickey D's, and staff employment designations that put you two levels below the janitor. Oh an no hour guarantees in the snow covered tundra and no flying for a week isn't uncommon.

There are good outfits out there though, full-time slots with salary and full time university-employee benefits (vaction, retirement plan, free tuition, sick leave). Alas, those places are locked in and only preferential in-house candidates need bother with trying. Who knew one needed a 'crappier' CFI job as a stepping stone to a 'just crappy' CFI job. This industry is hilarious, I don't know how you 121 hopefuls do it, my hat's off to ya.

Come on, flyflorida , fess up that money chart man, we're among friends here! :D

EDIT: I just re-read the job posting and that yet again reminded me of the latest interview. I think some of the shenanigans that go on interview-wise are just ridiculous. I've had Guard interviews be more laxed and yet more respectful than these 141 joints. You can't have the cake and eat it too, I don't mind being put on the spot and being tested, bring it on, as I earned my certifications, and did not find them in a cracker jack box (I loved it when they acted all surprised when I scored above average on their pop-up written examination..I should have walked out), but come on, it ain't an airline/military slot interview, it's a job which the insititutions themselves have deemed to be bottom of the barrel and compensate accordingly; go sail a f%cking boat with the 3rd degree for $10/hr and no hour guarantee..what's next? An unannouced FSDO style flight check just to be considered, and at the applicant's cost? :D
 
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Heyfolks....I was by no means trying to snuff you guys with pay info. My boss said we were having trouble getting enough applicants so I threw it out there for yall. Hopefully I can answer some of your quesitons. I think you all know the gig. Its similiar to most of them out there. as the last guy said, no you are not faculty...altough there is some university benenfits like cheap University gym memebership and crap like that.

As for the rest, here you go...if you have any questions let me konw. I check this every couple of days so give me a little time to get back to you!

just a few questions so i can better understand this-

What a/c do you all fly?
21 PA28-161
4 PA28R-201
3 PA44-180
3 C-172SP
1 C-152
1 7ECA (I think thats it....its a Citabria)
1 Cirrus SR-20
1 Cirrus SR-22

Is this 141 or 61?
90% is 141...there are a few 61s floating around

Are there deadlines for ratings/stage checks or are courses ongoing?
They want each course finished within a semester (which isnt hard)

What is a typical schedule/student load?
6 days a week....usually 7 or 8 students...so 3 to 4 per day at 2 hours a piece

Whats cost of living? Would/could this be supplied by university?
the Space Coast of Florida is one of the nations lowest costs of living. I don't think there is a cost of living payment from the school though.

What is typical pay? Possible benefits means what?

if you have previous instruction than you usually start higher, but for the newly minted CFI the pay starts at $15/hr

After 300 hours of flight AND GROUND instruction you go to 16 (like 150 of each...shouldnt take more than a month or two)
After 750 total flight and Ground you go to 17
...and there after $1 for every 750 additional flgiht and ground.
So by the end of a year you schould be between 17 and 18 per hour.

If you get 1000 flight dual given you can get benifits.


Any other info you think would be helpful

I started as a student and worked up to an Instructor ...its a great place to work! And hey...its in Florida....I dont know where you are...but I'm going home and going to the pool at my apartment...its in the mid 80's!
 
Anyone looking to CFI near chicago area....heard today that waukegan wings needs like 5-10 people now. Dont know anything about em......
Possibly new owner just in...
Don't know how busy it is but just throwin' the info out there for anyone near chicago...

http://www.waukeganwings.com/
 
What? You don't mention the Florida Air program? Did they finally stop flying those miserable bratty, barfing, junk food addicts?
 
flyflorida2001 said:
FIT Aviation (Florida Tech) is looking for flight instructors for the upcoming semester and year. Qualified Applicants will need CFI and CFII and be available to beign work January 3, 2006.

If interested please send a resume to:
FIT Aviation
Attn: Jason Maceyunas
640 Harry Sutton Rd
Melbourne, FL 32901


Good pay and possible benefits. Fly 20-40 hours per week.

I am a current instructor and just wanted to put the word out there. We need people. Be prepared for a rather indepth interview as we require instructors to be VERY knowledgable.
whats the pay rate??
 
Flystr8 said:
whats the pay rate??

See post #10. Pay seems reasonable, especially considering the guaranteed students that the program will bring you. Had the last regime still been in charge there I would have recommended avoiding it at any price (as I did). Fortunately it sounds like things are much better there now.
 
FIT Aviation (Florida Tech) is looking for flight instructors for the upcoming semester and year. Qualified Applicants will need CFI and CFII and be available to beign work in August 2006.

If interested please send a resume to:
FIT Aviation
Attn: Jason Maceyunas
640 Harry Sutton Rd
Melbourne, FL 32901


Good pay and possible benefits. Fly 20-40 hours per week.

I am a current instructor and just wanted to put the word out there. We need people. Be prepared for a rather indepth interview as we require instructors to be VERY knowledgable.
 
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I dont live in melbourne, but i was in the area this week, one of the stops on my weekend of leisure. Stopped by Icabods (sp?), Main St, and Tropics. Not bad from what I saw. My buddy is a computer wheel at Harris, has a great condo, beach front, off A1A. You wouldnt be living there on 15 bucks an hour though.
 
Just a heads up. If anybody from FIT (or anywhere else for that matter) needs a place to crash/rent in the Space Coast area send me a PM. I have a 2/2 condo available about 3 blocks from the sand. Indiatlantic Blvd west of A1A.
 
pay now starts at 15/hr and goes up to 20/hr....realisticly you would be at 18 by the end of one year. Unilike 18/hr at a regional with 75 hrs / mth you can easily make a LOT more. Most instuctors average 25 to 35 hours per week. Some who actively search for flights work more like 35-45 (yes...thats overtime baby!!). It not gonna make you a rich man but you can live on it without a huge problem.
 
I worked there for a few years; like any gig there are good pts and bad ones. Keeping a 141 syllabus for 12 students was a bit of a pain in the arse, but I did fly enough to pay bills which doesn't always happen in the CFI world. ME time was hard to build unless you were there a while, and there were a bunch of unnescessary administrative hassles working there, but it was a good first flying job for me at least. The airplanes were in great shape and IFR was cake (no ice, no mountains.) A few afternoon boomers but nothing crazy. Cost of living is relativly cheap. Like most other jobs in FL it doesn't pay as much, but livin' is easier. I made about 8$ an hour when I started there and I think like 10-11 when I quit, but they gave me health care when I went full time. I guess they took away the health plan and upped the hourly. Good luck to anyone that works there, there are alot of worse places to be. I think the worst part about FIT was all the chubby girls that thought they were hot because of all the dudes that payed atention to them. Maybe I should have gone to UF......
 
Amen to that one! Nothing worse than a hippo that thinks she's a prime piece of Angus.
 
BeechCowboy48 said:
I worked there for a few years; like any gig there are good pts and bad ones. Keeping a 141 syllabus for 12 students was a bit of a pain in the arse, but I did fly enough to pay bills which doesn't always happen in the CFI world. ME time was hard to build unless you were there a while, and there were a bunch of unnescessary administrative hassles working there, but it was a good first flying job for me at least. The airplanes were in great shape and IFR was cake (no ice, no mountains.) A few afternoon boomers but nothing crazy. Cost of living is relativly cheap. Like most other jobs in FL it doesn't pay as much, but livin' is easier. I made about 8$ an hour when I started there and I think like 10-11 when I quit, but they gave me health care when I went full time. I guess they took away the health plan and upped the hourly. Good luck to anyone that works there, there are alot of worse places to be. I think the worst part about FIT was all the chubby girls that thought they were hot because of all the dudes that payed atention to them. Maybe I should have gone to UF......

Sounds pretty simular to when I was there, (Started at the BCC outpost in 97, moved to the main Melbourne campus 98 until I left for Great Lakes in 99.)

A lot of flight hours, you made your own schedule each day as long as your students were taken care of (I guess that went away from what I heard after I left.) Still turned into a 6 day a week job until the last few weeks when it was a 7 day a week job before and during final week. Students were provided and you just flew, leaving any financial considerations out of your planning, as the student could run a tab if add time was needed. You did have to stick around a while to get multi time, many people would rent some block time in "vintage" twins out of some of the nearby airports, get their 100 hours, and buy a job with Comair or ASA rather than wait to be senior enough to be assigned multi students and build the multi time that way.

Planes were in top shape, although well used, but they were starting a refurb program right before I left. Some of the things they were planning on doing was getting GPS in the IFR Cadets, new paint on all the planes, selling the Grumman Tigers off, selling the turbo Seminoles and getting a new normally asperated Semoinole, refurbing the other two normal asperated Seminoles they had.

When I was a student in the contact program (2 month Private Pilot school) in 1992 they didn't even have intercoms installed in the planes, some of the instructors had portable ones that ran on 9v batteries. I think they installed the intercoms in 1994 if I remember correctly.

FIT also had a charter program, VFR 135 in the Mooney 20J's and IFR in a Piper Chieftain. FIT started training me for the program 3 times, but each time the chief pilot they were training got hired somewhere else, and they would suspend all the charter training until they could hire another one, who would also leave for a job with more pay during training.

Other programs was a contract with AT&T to patrol some undersea cables in a Seminole, a program with NASA to fly in the restricted area during space shuttle launches and act as a relay for some UHF signals, and some early work with Harris Corp into technology that is now being developed in the Capstone program.

Pay was pretty low, even for a full time instructor and also as a senior flight instructor at FIT. Medical, Dental, Vision was available only to the full time instructors, and it was pretty expensive from what I remember, but at least it was something. After Embry-Riddle unionized their was some effort to have the same union come in amd represent FIT's instructors, I was gone by then but I heard from people the general increased the pay so the pilot group voted no to becoming union.

I don't think I took much if any of a pay cut when I went to Great Lakes for 14K a year as an FO, after being a full time instructor, flight training manager, and check airman at FIT.

A good amount of politics occured between campus and the flight line, and between the School of Aero and the University. Chief Instructors would last around 2 to 4 years before leaving, on average, If I am remembering correctly. Didn't affect the flight instructors too much as long as you kept out of the line of fire and did you job.

One good advantage is that you mostly teach college students who study, have taken or are taking formal college level ground school classes, want to fly at least 3 lessons a week, and come prepaired for their lessons for the most part. Your job is to get them throught the course, and don't have to worry about doing intro flights, finding your own students, having all your students only be willing to fly on weekends, having students stop because of money, and all the other hastles that an independent flight instructor deals with every day.
 
Just out of curiousity, how is "melbourne" pronounced in Florida??

Is it like how it's spelled or "MELBIN"??

dang aussies!!
 
FIT's charter program was the biggest joke when I was there. Nothing like printing a flyer and trying to maintain a Navajo and thinking you have a real charter program. I'm very thankful that the management at the airport was fired after I left, though I wish it had been done earlier.
 

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