The usual.....
Sounds like the usual offer. They classify you as non-faculty and lump you with all the in-house time builders. That translates into no medical and no salary. Now, in defense of FIT, it is Florida, so your expectation of actually getting to work those billable hours during winter semester is MUCH BETTER than some of the midwestern locations I've applied to. Also, you will never be able to fly decent equipment like that (and for the discount rates these colleges give you) on a part 61 outfit so not arguing there at all.
I'm doing the job search thing for January employment, and focusing on universities, and the job offers I've got hurt. I came back from an interview and was driving back home, talking to the gf on the phone trying to get some feedback, although I was already fairly dissapointed with the offer. She secures the conversation with: "Listen, I can match that income with my commissioned RETAIL job, working 25-30hrs and I go to school full-time as you know; you just got offered a de facto part time job"...dang the truth hurts. I guess to those of us who are not interested in pursuing a CFI job as a stepping stone to the airlines it's just not good enough to get paid in cookies..*cough* I mean flight time.
This thread also reminds me of another thing. All these outfits just won't cough it up, I've had to put my foot down and uncomfortably request they fessed up the d^mn compensation information, but then again I wasn't brought up in the school of thought that said asking for people's compensation was "crass and improper"..oh that's right my parents were both govt working bees, their salaries were always public domain
It has been my experience that only those people who are either making sh%t or making morally reprehensible amounts are the groups that get offended. I'm sure this offer is of the former.
I wouldn't be surprised if the FIT job called for $15/hr billable time (flight, ground or sim), no university benfits, considered full-time but non-faculty (i.e. you keep the hourly rate and not a salary, but you don't get laid off on the summers). Actually not a bad deal...in FLORIDA. Anywhere else I wouldn't look twice. Now, I'm giving them the benfit of the doubt, cause I gotta tell ya, I've heard worse offers. Try a probationary period pay rate for the first semester that's lower than working at Mickey D's, and staff employment designations that put you two levels below the janitor. Oh an no hour guarantees in the snow covered tundra and no flying for a week isn't uncommon.
There are good outfits out there though, full-time slots with salary and full time university-employee benefits (vaction, retirement plan, free tuition, sick leave). Alas, those places are locked in and only preferential in-house candidates need bother with trying. Who knew one needed a 'crappier' CFI job as a stepping stone to a 'just crappy' CFI job. This industry is hilarious, I don't know how you 121 hopefuls do it, my hat's off to ya.
Come on, flyflorida , fess up that money chart man, we're among friends here!
EDIT: I just re-read the job posting and that yet again reminded me of the latest interview. I think some of the shenanigans that go on interview-wise are just ridiculous. I've had Guard interviews be more laxed and yet more respectful than these 141 joints. You can't have the cake and eat it too, I don't mind being put on the spot and being tested, bring it on, as I earned my certifications, and did not find them in a cracker jack box (I loved it when they acted all surprised when I scored above average on their pop-up written examination..I should have walked out), but come on, it ain't an airline/military slot interview, it's a job which the insititutions themselves have deemed to be bottom of the barrel and compensate accordingly; go sail a f%cking boat with the 3rd degree for $10/hr and no hour guarantee..what's next? An unannouced FSDO style flight check just to be considered, and at the applicant's cost?
